Andrew Chapman Explains The Fast Track From School To Stock Cars

A college class gets interrupted by one of the best calls a young driver can receive: “Can you race this weekend?” We sit down with Andrew Chapman, a newly 21-year-old ARCA driver, and trace the line from a bare-bones go-kart setup to real stock car results. He shares how he got connected with a team owner, what it takes to earn trust quickly, and why being ready matters as much as raw speed when opportunities show up with almost no notice.
We also dig into Chapman’s other lane: electrical engineering. Cars are turning into rolling computer networks, and racing is already obsessed with data, sensors, and communication between driver and crew. We talk about how technical fluency can keep a career moving even when rides change, and why engineering can open doors across motorsports, from setup and diagnostics to inspection and safety roles.
Then Don delivers a full new car review of the redesigned 2027 Kia Telluride, including the trim walk, the Telluride X-Pro SX Prestige AWD experience, interior tech highlights, pricing, competitors, and the big question of whether a 2.5-liter turbo four feels like enough for a large three-row SUV. Jeff rounds things out with the true origin of the Indy 500 milk tradition, followed by a clear-eyed look at automotive tariffs, supply chain complexity, and the USMCA review that could reshape North American production decisions.
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00:00 - Show Welcome And Lineup
00:55 - Andrew Chapman Joins From California
02:00 - From Go-Karts To Engineering
05:35 - Getting Into ARCA And Results
09:12 - When The Call Drops Career Talk
14:17 - Quick Break And Podcast Plug
16:21 - 2027 Kia Telluride First Drive
21:22 - Indy 500 Milk Tradition Explained
25:02 - Tariffs USMCA And What Changes Next
28:12 - How To Reach Us And Listen
Show Welcome And Lineup
Don ArmstrongFrom our dual city studios in Texas, USA, it's the award-winning In-Wheel Time Car Talk Show. Just ahead, driver Andrew Chapman competing in the ARCA race car series, plus Jeff's Motor Minute, and I'll get to review the redesigned 2027 Kia Telluride.
SPEAKER_04All right.
Don ArmstrongHowdy, along with Mike Out of This World Mars. We always need more Jeff Zeke. I'm Don Armstrong. Glad you could join us on this Saturday. Uh it's a beautiful day. Let's not leave out uh Chief Engineer David Ainsley. I have not talked to him this week, really.
Jeff DziekanWell, he was in he was going to some instructional institution last week. Yeah. And uh maybe he had to stay after class. I don't know. I don't know either. But apparently he's he got detention, that's probably what it was.
Don ArmstrongProbably so. Sleeping in class.
Jeff DziekanTeachers got him uh staying after class.
Don ArmstrongAll right, well, let's bring in our uh NASCAR driver, shall we? Andrew. Yeah. Andrew uh Chapman. Is he there, Mike?
Mike MarrsYes, sir. Oh, there he is.
Don ArmstrongThere he is. Andrew! There he is. Boy, you made it just in time. Yeah, sorry, you were gonna get a big spanking if you didn't make it on time. You know that, don't you?
SPEAKER_00Well, glad I made it.
Don ArmstrongGood answer. I like that. How old are you, Andrew? I'm 21.
SPEAKER_00Newly 21.
Don ArmstrongSay nearly, did you say?
SPEAKER_00No, newly 21.
Don ArmstrongOh, newly 21. Tell them how old you are. Yeah, I'm 23. Uh, so I got you beat by a couple of years. So, Andrew, um, it's great to talk to you and thanks uh for joining us today. So uh are you out in Pasa Get Down Dina, California?
SPEAKER_00Uh yeah.
From Go-Karts To Engineering
Don ArmstrongYou are? Okay. Well, I didn't know right now. Okay. Well, I just wanted to make sure that you were still out there and that we weren't talking to Pasadena, Texas, because we have that right down the street from us here. So just wanted to bring that up. So I understand that uh you started racing when you were 13 years old in go-karts. Am I correct?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I started when I was 30 and my dad. We, you know, I went to a K1 speed when I was 13, and uh we got I got a little, we were like, oh yeah, we want to you know do this. So we bought a little go-kart, put it in the back of the pickup shop, you ran that for a year and just kind of kept going.
Don ArmstrongYeah. Well, and and and when uh were these like shifter carts? Were they just regular standard go-karts? Or uh I can't imagine if your dad's into carting that he would have just a regular standard putt-putt golf cart.
SPEAKER_00It was it was a basically a lawnmower engine. It was made by uh the Briggs and Stratton. It was an LSB cart. Sally Austin.
Mike MarrsSo it was really a starter cart. When you started, you started.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was it was like bare bones. I think it was like five years old. That's what I first started on.
Don ArmstrongThat well, there's nothing wrong with that. Mike learned how to drive on one of those. Yeah, yeah, he's still got one in his backyard. He takes it down to the 7-Eleven every once in a while. So um I understand that you are an engineering student. Let's get down to the basics here. You graduated from high school, and uh, I assume that you were in college or have graduated from college? University of California.
SPEAKER_00I'm in college right now. I'm uh junior right now, uh studying electrical engineering.
Don ArmstrongElectrical engineering. So, what made you go into that direction?
SPEAKER_00Uh I I really think that's the way cars are going. You know, I see where it is with you know all the electronics in cars and ECUs and programming, and I'm like, I that's kind of the way I thought the automotive industry was going.
Don ArmstrongWell, from what I understand, I and uh that that good for you. Yeah, from what I understand that you know the electrical architecture in cars is uh they've been trying to get it changed since the onset of you know the hundred computers that are now on board. Uh and the first thing is these uh 12 volt systems, and they want to get to a 24-volt system, and it's also gonna cut down a lot of weight on the car because of the wiring that's currently in there, and uh so it's all gonna go fiber. Am I missing something there?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I have read about that. I think you're correct. I I'm not sure though. I would have to read more on it.
Jeff DziekanWell, you just be the evolution of the automobile, and we've got youngsters like you, Andrew, that are gonna take that evolution to the next level. So, you know, kudos to you for finding that niche there and uh working it out with your race car career.
Don ArmstrongYeah, and uh, and that goes with, you know, you know, let's see, uh nature studies and uh and uh let's talk about you know global warming and all of the other classes that you gotta take to get the degree, right? Am I right?
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. I had to say I'm taking some interesting classes. I took a I took a class on the Beatles, which was pretty fun. But yeah, there's some interesting classes.
Don ArmstrongConsidering they're from England. Yeah, yeah. And they build cars over there, but they're really weird cars. But uh anyway, that's it.
Jeff DziekanI was gonna say University of California, Santa Cruz. So uh a lot of girls out there, huh? For youngsters that are uh race car drivers.
SPEAKER_00Uh unfortunately I'm pretty focused on racing in uh school.
Getting Into ARCA And Results
Mike MarrsBut there's always room. That's not gonna say.
Don ArmstrongNo, he's not gonna say, he's not gonna tip his hand. So yeah, you're driving, uh, I understand, in the Arca series. Let's talk about that, shall we?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
Don ArmstrongSo how did you how did you get the ride, first of all?
SPEAKER_00Uh I I met Tim Huddleston. Uh, that's the team owner I raced for. I met him when I was I think 17. Um, and then I raced at his racetrack at Rwindell Speedway. Rest in peace, it closed. But I raced at his racetrack in the in the spec late model division with just like me and a couple people. We were just working on the car and then I won a couple races. And then I think it was last year I was at school, and he calls me and I was in I forgot what class it was. I think it was my differential equation class that I was in. My ARCA car. And I was like, yeah, what did he like this weekend? Do you have an ARC license? I was like, yeah, I did not have an ARCA license. I like both ARC. I'm like, how do I get a license? Like, you gotta go to the doctor, you know, you gotta do all this stuff, and I like got it somehow in that five-day period as a track that weekend. So that's kind of how I ended up this.
Don ArmstrongAnd and and so that first race was where?
SPEAKER_00Uh Bakersfield. It was uh Kevin Harvick's current high school.
Don ArmstrongOkay, and how long was the track?
SPEAKER_00That was half a mile.
Don ArmstrongHalf mile track. So and it's a banked oval?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was I think it's 14 degrees of banking.
Don ArmstrongOkay.
SPEAKER_00Not sure, but it was pretty big.
Don ArmstrongYeah. And let's talk about the car that you're driving in. Um I I assume that in ARCA there are different levels of cars for different tracks and ability to drive them and that sort of thing. Am I correct or no?
SPEAKER_00Uh they're all pretty similar. They're all around 700, 700 horsepower. Um, they all weigh about 3300 pounds. Um all you know, CO2 chassis. So they're all pretty similar, but you know, there's some differences in who made the car, who made the chassis, who built your engine, but they're all kind of roughly in that area, 750 horsepower.
Don ArmstrongSo, how did you do in your first race? Where did you place? I think we finished sixth.
SPEAKER_00Or sixth, I think. Yeah, fifth or sixth. I'm not sure.
Don ArmstrongSo a top 10 finish, what about uh 20 cars, 30 cars?
SPEAKER_0027, I believe.
Don Armstrong27 cars. Well, way to go, dude. You're you're you're bad to the bone kind of guy. So uh and are you still in that series? You still racing?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we I just raced uh a couple weeks ago at Shasta. We finished fourth. We're gonna Colorado next week. Hopefully, I'll win it.
Jeff DziekanSo there you go.
Don ArmstrongWell, yeah, it's time. Yeah, yeah, you gotta you gotta prove to your owner that uh his choice in you driving the car was a good one. And I think that you probably have got a good good leg up on that.
Jeff DziekanHe's on his way, yeah.
Don ArmstrongYeah. Uh well, so um what what are your goals? Are you gonna stay in ARCA another year while you uh get your college degree? Or uh what what are your plans?
SPEAKER_00I mean, I I'm always looking for opportunities. So um good answer. So if anyone wants to wants me to drive the race car, call me. Uh but I'm always looking for opportunities, you know. I'll drive anything. Anything with four wheels, put me in it. Um may not do the best, but believe me.
When The Call Drops Career Talk
Jeff DziekanYou'll try hard. Oh no. We lost him.
Mike MarrsYeah.
Jeff DziekanWell, he's got a he's got his head on straight, that's for sure.
Mike MarrsYeah, he does.
Jeff DziekanHe wants to he's got a plan what he wants to do. Twenty-one years old, come on now. What were you what was your plan at 21? To make it 22 years old.
Don ArmstrongYou don't want to know what my plan was. My plan was whatever was happening that night, that was the plan. Yeah. Um, let's see.
Mike MarrsUm we've lost his volume and everything.
Jeff DziekanYeah. And to have an owner call you and say, hey, come come join my team, that'd be cool. That's cool too. Yeah.
Mike MarrsBut it is, and it that goes through his effort and stuff. And I was hoping that we'd get to talk to him a little bit longer. You you ask him long-range plans, but I was wondering, is he going to go into that automotive space for that with that electrical engineering degree, or is he just going to use that to pay for his racing efforts?
Don ArmstrongWell, I don't know, obviously. Um, a degree is something in addition to uh a uh electrical degree, or uh the electrical dri degree that he's trying to go for uh is going to be for him anyway, right? Uh automotive related. And um but I mean he's 21.
Jeff DziekanAnd what happens if you don't make it as a race car driver? What happens if you don't pick up a ride next year and you're off a year or two? You've got to fall back on an electrical degree.
Don ArmstrongWell, there's also that and um also behind the scenes in racing as well. And uh listen, I worked with a lot of talented guys when I did the NHRA drag racing tour. And those guys that are in Formula One and IndyCar, they're making some really good money and they're very talented, and most of them have a a college degree in something.
Jeff DziekanYeah, and uh some engineering field.
Don ArmstrongYeah, exactly.
Mike MarrsSo they gotta have that so they can kind of help the guys that are their their crew set up the car. They gotta be able to communicate this is what the car is doing on the track so that they can make adjustments.
Don ArmstrongYeah, and as his bio reads here, the long term goal goal is uh reaching the NASCAR Cup series, right? As with anybody, I think that at his level, and uh obviously he's got a connection with the ARCA series and uh he does now, yeah, absolutely. And the they they the the cup series owners pull from ARCA, um the truck series. They pull from over the carts, they grew up from the carts series. There is that as well. So um I think that there's a lot of potential there for that boy. But it's his name is Andrew Chapman. But it's not a good thing.
Mike MarrsThat was one of the reasons that uh I thought his story was we've talked to some of those young guys, uh one in particular that was already going overseas, still a teenager going overseas, doing really well. Family owned a track. So I mean there was a lot of support there in that regard.
Jeff DziekanNetworking to begin with.
Mike MarrsYeah, he's working out of the back of his dad's pickup truck between tracks when he's in the go-kart series. So I just thought it was really interesting to see somebody coming up that way.
Jeff DziekanYeah, but you brought up the point, Mike, that there's you know, he could get into something in the automotive, a niche for that electrical. But in any of the racing series we talk about, you've got NHRA, you got NASCAR, you got Indy, like you stated, there are specialties. You've got a a department or a team of people just for the shocks. And then you got a team of people and and an NHRA just for the heads or uh suspension and computers. So each one has its own little department, little niche that he could get into, or no more.
Mike MarrsAbsolutely. Yeah. And then you go look at the the sanctioning bodies like NHRA. You know, they've got their tracks, IHRA, Formula One, whoever, NASCAR. I mean, they've got a lot of stuff going on there at their tracks. It takes a lot of somebody with an engineering degree to kind of set it up and keep it functioning. Right. Exactly.
Don ArmstrongYeah, well that's yeah, and there's all kinds of aspects. Within those uh entities, uh there's always the guy that uh has got to pass your car with an inspection, and he's the inspector.
Mike MarrsThe safety guys and yeah.
Don ArmstrongWell, not just safety, but the whole overall car. You know, has it got the right uh fuel injection system on it? Is he trying to cheat with something?
Mike MarrsYeah, is there any extra fuel in the in the roll bar piping or anything? Dang, you found me out. That's it.
Don ArmstrongRoll bar piping fuel supply.
Mike MarrsWell, there was who was it that did that, Mike? You should you he was a drag racer, and I'm trying to remember who it was.
Jeff DziekanNo, I thought it was a NASCAR guy where he had the fuel line from the tank to the carburetor was like an extra 19 feet roped through the car so that when they put gas in it, they filled up the tube and the tank so that it kind of like never ran out of gas because it was like 20 gallons in the tube.
Mike MarrsExactly. I think it was a drag race that actually had it inside the roll cage. Oh, that's really safe.
Don ArmstrongYeah, that's real safe there.
Jeff DziekanYeah, quarter mile at a time. Interesting stuff. Yeah. Well, best of luck to the young man.
Don ArmstrongYeah. I'm sorry that we lost him.
Mike MarrsUh yeah, I got a text back from him that his Wi-Fi suddenly stopped altogether.
Jeff DziekanWell, there you go. California.
Mike MarrsCalifornia, what can you say?
Quick Break And Podcast Plug
unknownYeah, there's that.
2027 Kia Telluride First Drive
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Or you can always grab a 30-minute podcast of our show from your favorite podcast store, and it is free. And amazing. Yeah. So let's do um the let's do the car review first. Okay. Um I had an opportunity to drive the 2027 Kia Telluride. Um available trim levels, the LX, the S, the EX, the SX, SX Prestige, X Line, and X Pro. I got to drive the X Pro SX Prestige all-wheel drive. So these are basically trim packages, is what they are. And they name them different things, and they bundle up all these things within those trim packages, and usually it goes up the ladder to the top line trim called X Pro. So there you have it. This is considered a standard SUV. Seats up to seven passengers, a three-row. This is a complete redesign for 2027. Sharp looking, blunt nose with a distinct lighting pattern up front, symmetrical wheel well openings with slab sides, rear vertical lighting takes cues from the front lights. Kind of good looking, actually. I love the beautiful design execution. We could use improvement, nothing. Overall, it gets high marks for the design of this thing. Interior highlights. Our top-of-the-line X Pro uh interior trim and seat coverings are top-notch all the way. Now there's more leg room in the back seats, thanks to a longer wheelbase with this redesign. Dual phone chargers, that was interesting, right up front, up there on the center console, and big in-console cup holders are handy as well. Huge instrument and infotainment screen, one of the best that I've used. Cargo trunk room is kind of small with a third row up, as you would expect. What I liked about it, uh the design is modern, clever, and unique. I think that you'll really like it. What could use improvement? We couldn't think of anything. If you're in the market for something like this, definitely put it on your list. If you're in the market for a suburban, this is something that would be a competitor to that. Now here's a hitch that may be uh uh strike against it. 2.5 liter turbo four, a four-banger, two hundred and seventy-four horsepower. Might be a little low on power for as big as it is and how much weight it hauls. Uh torque, 311 pound feet, eight-speed automatic transmission, 5,000 pound tow rating. Can't imagine it. But 17 miles per gallon in the city, 22 on the highway for a combined of 19. I got 22.5 miles per gallon over 467.8 miles. Well, can use improvement? The transmission downshift is slow uh to meet our needs. It needs more revs uh to be able to do that as well. So I think that they need to do a little bit more tweaking on the transmission. Ride and handling, smooth ride, and despite its size, easy to maneuver in the grocery store parking lot. Uh what could use improvement? Nothing. Uh we didn't uh take it off-road, but the X Pro does have off-road type tires on it and uh the tell you ride height for off-roading, if you're into that sort of thing. I don't know anybody. I don't know anybody that goes off-roading in their own. Uh so base trim price on this trim price now,$56,790. Price is tested,$59,580. That's pretty expensive. But the base model price is$39,190. So you can get into one of these things for under$40,000. Competitors? Hyundai Palisade,$39,435 is where it starts.
Jeff DziekanI had a question about that. Go ahead.
Don ArmstrongHonda Pilot,$42,500. A Honda's always been more expensive than most uh of its competitors. And the Mazda CX90 is also a competitor. It starts at$38,800.
Jeff DziekanThe the when you said Palisades, I was thinking of the Palisades when I saw the back picture of that vehicle, uh tell you ride Palisades. To me, they kind of blend together. And you also stated that it's up against competition of the suburban. Is it that large? It says large.
Don ArmstrongIt it yeah, it is. It's it this is a big vehicle, and it's called a standard SUV, which throws it in the same category as a suburban. That too is a standard SUV. I would think Tahoe, but Suburban is a big, big truck. It's big. It's uh three rows of seating. So that's what this is. Well, let's do your motor minute there, sir.
Indy 500 Milk Tradition Explained
Jeff DziekanSure, I've got one. So have you ever wondered why they drink milk at the end of the Indy 500? Yes. Well, Mike was asking the same thing, and I'm here to tell you. Uh the iconic moment of the Indianapolis 500 winner drinking milk in Victory Lane is a long and colorful history that began in 1936. Gentleman by the name of Lewis Mayer, then uh a regular buttermilk drinker from his childhood out of Yonkers, New York, won his third Indianapolis 500, becoming the first driver to achieve this three peat. Exhausted after the 500 miles, he sat up on Victory Lane in the car, raised three fingers on one hand, and a and a bottle of milk in the other, and drank the milk. The scene was captured at a movie market. Milestone moment. And the footage was later seen by the dairy industry executive who requested that milk be made available to every future winner of the Indianapolis 500.
Don ArmstrongWell, you know, Wisconsin may be the dairy capital of the world, but they'd also have cows in Indianapolis, too.
Jeff DziekanIn 1936, the moment was unplanned, but it stuck. Winners of the 1938 and 41, again in 46, with a World War II hiatus drank milk in Victory Lane. Meyer had repeatedly sipped milk after the 1933 win, but in the 30s they weren't really doing that as a tradition. But in the 50s, the milk ceremony had become a staple of the Indy 500. Today it's one of the most recognizable sports traditions, with the Indiana Indiana dairy farmers playing a central role. Since the 2000s, two Indiana farmers would request either a rookie or a veteran to present the ice-cold bottle of milk to the winning driver. The drivers polled before the race choose either whole milk, 2%, or skim. No mention of powdered or breasts. The tradition has become more of a more than a drink. Sacrilegious, milk remains a centerpiece of the celebration. In short, the Indy 500 milk tradition began with a simple personal choice by Lewis Mayer in 1936, was immortalized in a newsreel, and has since grown to a 90-year-old celebration at Indianapolis 500. Breast milk.
Don ArmstrongI didn't let you uh slip by with that.
Jeff DziekanNo, okay. Just making sure you were listening. Well, I was. And I'm going to do some other indie stuff leading up for next week as well. So big event. I love Indy. Indy's fantastic. I'm taping the qualifying right now. They ran full practice this morning. I've been watching it kind of segmented throughout the week, and it's very important.
Don ArmstrongYou haven't had any wrecks?
Jeff DziekanUh a couple spins, but nothing major. Uh last year the pole winner was at 234, I think. And yesterday they were clocking about 232, shutting it down because of wind and things like that. So very, very cool.
Don ArmstrongYeah. Well, I noticed that uh somebody ran 240 in one of the straights.
Jeff DziekanYeah, and they backed down because they said the car was not where it should be. Yeah.
Don ArmstrongYeah, at 240.
Jeff DziekanWell, you're coming out of one turn and you're looking down, even if when you're going to the short shoot between one and two or three and four, you can see the flags, and that's what they look up at the flags to see where the wind's blowing.
Don ArmstrongDo you ever been to the indie race?
Jeff DziekanI've not to the race, but I've been to the track, you know, in between races. Same thing with uh Daytona, but we actually in Miami for the NASCAR race. But anyways, Indy's fantastic. I love it.
Don ArmstrongI've been a couple of times, and I'll tell you what, that is that is an experience that I'll never forget. Great place.
Mike MarrsYou've been to the actual race?
Tariffs USMCA And What Changes Next
How To Reach Us And Listen
Don ArmstrongYes, sir. I have. Uh sat on the infield uh behind uh the pits, and uh that was interesting in itself. Or the paddock. The paddock. Anyway. Story of the week. I'm gonna do that now because I want to. Era of globalization and free trade expansion is over, and few expect it to return. More than a year after the president implemented tariffs at levels not seen in nearly a century, the future of automotive trade remains unclear, industry executives and analysts said. North American trade rules are in flux. I've kind of touched on this before. Major review is scheduled for July. Legal challenges to Trump's tariffs continue, and trade deals the U.S. struck with some allies appear fragile, to say the least. As automakers and suppliers grapple with tens of billions of dollars in annual tariff bills and increased commodities prices, they feel stuck, unable to make long-term decisions about where to invest and what to build and how to source their parts. Trump aimed to motivate automakers and suppliers to move production to the U.S. by placing 25% tariffs on vehicles and some auto parts. Trump has repeatedly pointed to billions of dollars in investment announcements by automakers over the past year as evidence the tariffs are bringing production back to the United States. The reality is more complicated. Automakers have announced plans to move production of just five models to the U.S. from other countries, according to an analysis by Auto Forecast Solutions. Stellantis plans to transfer production of the Jeep Compass and Cherokee from Mexico to Illinois in the coming years, while GM plans to move Chevy Trailblazer and Equinox production out of Mexico to plants in Tennessee and Kansas. GM also plans to move production of the successor to the Buick Invision crossover from China to Kansas. Car manufacturers plan production five to seven years in advance, making it extremely difficult or even impossible for them to move quickly, according to Jennifer Safavian. Safavian, CEO of Auto Drive America. Can you check me? There you go. Which represents foreign automakers in the U.S. and automotive supply chains are extremely complex, further complicating efforts to move production, she said. Automakers with North America and auto production are looking to boost output of vehicles and parts that comply with the United States-Mexico-Canada agreement to reduce their tariff bills. USMCA compliant vehicles and parts have received significant carve-outs from auto tariffs, in part because of automaker lobbying. Canadian and Mexican vehicles that comply with USMCA rules for reduced tariffs are subject to 25% duties only on the value of a vehicle's non-American content rather than 25% on the full vehicle value. U.S. MCA faces a mandated review. The agreement agrees uh requires the country's representatives to meet July 1st, six-year anniversary of the trade pact taking effect, to decide whether to extend it for another 16 years, and if so, whether it should be amended. So that's coming up. And of course, once uh they meet and decide, we will have the latest for you here on the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show. I was gonna say the radio car talk show, but it's we're not on the radio. Stay tuned. Yeah. Um, which is good and bad. Radio's gone down the toilet, but another subject for another day. Hey, if you'd like to get in touch with us, send us an email. The address here is info at inwheeltime.com. We are back right after this quick break. Stay with us. Your car is a direct reflection of you, so don't be satisfied with color fade or a dingy dull appearance. Get rid of those terrible automated car wash scratches. Gulf Coast Auto Shield is your Save the Paint company. 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