June 7, 2026

A Texas Muscle Car Cathedral Filled With Neon

A Texas Muscle Car Cathedral Filled With Neon
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A timber-frame “cathedral” filled with Mopar muscle cars and neon signs sounds like a myth until you hear it from the guy who built it. We sit down with John Hovis, creator of the Hemi Hideout near Brookshire, Texas, to talk about the passion that drove him to collect late-1960s and early-1970s Dodge and Plymouth legends, why an original Superbird still stops people in their tracks, and how the space has grown into a full-on automotive time capsule.

We also get into what makes the Hideout more than a private collection: weekday tours, a volunteer crew that loves telling the stories, and a simple model that turns visits into local charity donations. John shares why the building itself matters, how the memorabilia and vintage signs became a second obsession, and what it’s like to keep adding pieces when you’re “running out of wall.”

Then we jump from old-school horsepower to modern electrons with Jeff’s Motor Minute nostalgia and Don’s review of the 2026 GMC Sierra EV Denali Max Range. We cover claimed range vs real driving, towing and payload, the sheer weight of a big-battery electric pickup, and why missing Apple CarPlay and Android Auto is a real talking point for buyers. If you love car culture, collector stories, and honest new car reviews, hit subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave us a review. What would you rather tour first, the Hemi Hideout or an EV truck showroom?

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00:00 - Welcome And What’s Ahead

01:12 - John Hovis Returns To The Show

03:15 - The Hemi Hideout Origin Story

04:35 - Building A Mopar Dream Garage

06:10 - Superbird Details And Collector Calls

07:55 - Tours Private Events And Charity Giving

14:10 - Neon Signs New Finds And Family Roots

17:58 - Break Plus Next Week Live Remote

20:12 - Jeff’s Motor Minute Rambler Road Trip

21:42 - 2026 GMC Sierra EV Denali Review

26:18 - Range Claims Pricing And Real-World Use

28:58 - How EV Range Numbers Get Made

29:48 - Contact Info And Sign-Off

Welcome And What’s Ahead

Don Armstrong

You know, I this is not the first time that I've done this this morning. I just lost track of time and I'm going, oh, it it's time to start the show. Okay. Yeah, there's some jiggling going on there.

Mike Marrs

Yeah. Getting jiggy over there. Yeah.

Don Armstrong

Hey, good morning to you. And thank you from our dual city studios in Texas, USA. It is the award-winning in real time car talk show. Just ahead. He's the man of the hour. And we haven't even visited with him since last summer. To be the man of the year, though. The Hemi Hideout creator John Hovis joins us. Jeff will have his motor minute, and I'll review the electric GMC Sierra. Howdy. Along with Mike Out of This World Mars. Way over there. We always need more Jeff Zeken over here. Chief Engineer David Ainsley. I'm Don Armstrong. Hey, thanks for joining us on this Saturday for our live version of the in-real time car talk show. Let's uh let's just get on with it, shall we? Let's get on, get it on.

John Hovis Returns To The Show

Don Armstrong

Ladies and gentlemen, here he is, the creator of the Hemi Hideout, John Hovis, in front of in front of a fireplace, which I think is kind of ironic since it's about to turn 100 degrees out there. But it's perfect for you, John.

SPEAKER_01

It is indeed. Hola, amigos.

Don Armstrong

How are you, my friend? Is that where you are? Nearby, anyway.

SPEAKER_01

I am, yes. Just down the street.

Don Armstrong

Yeah, just down the street. Well, uh, so you're out there, and uh, are you vacationing out there?

SPEAKER_01

We're just kind of listening to our arteries hardened today. There is that.

Mike Marrs

Well, hey man, can you pull that mic up just a little bit closer to you?

SPEAKER_01

Yep, sure can.

Mike Marrs

Very good. There you go. There you go. Got it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, and it's a professional microphone.

Don Armstrong

You've been in touch with you've been in touch with David Ainsley, haven't you?

SPEAKER_01

No, I've been in touch with my grandson. Oh, okay. One and the same kind of. Yeah, same thing. Anyway, John, how have you been? All good, buddy. Miss you guys. We need to get together again. I didn't realize it's been a whole year now, so pretty close, yeah.

Don Armstrong

It is. Well, you know, uh, when somebody picks up the phone and says, Hey, we're having an open house out here, you guys want to come, we'll be there. Okay, well, it'll be spring. We'll do that again. Okay, spring.

Jeff Dziekan

Well, the last time we were out there is when we were uh rearranging the studios. That's correct. He afforded us a place to stay.

Don Armstrong

That's right. We were hidden in a closet, which was perfect for us, and that's where we came from anyway. We appreciate it. Yeah. So uh let's talk about the Hemi Height out and how things are going out there.

SPEAKER_01

All's going good. Uh we've got a lot of visitors coming, you know, Monday through Friday we do the tours and uh getting busier and busier and busier, all out as busy as I want to be.

Don Armstrong

So well, that that's right, because uh you've been quote unquote in retirement for a number of years. Actually, I met you and you just had been in retirement for a couple of years, I think.

SPEAKER_01

You are correct. That's been almost 15 years now. Wow. Oh my gosh. Well, it is you were a young buck back in those days.

Don Armstrong

Yes, I was. He's not anymore. No, none of us are, as a matter of fact. So uh let's talk about the Hemi Hideout for those that

The Hemi Hideout Origin Story

Don Armstrong

uh really don't know. And uh we we continue to have this influx of people that come and visit us uh either on our live broadcast or mainly on podcasts. And the Hemi Hideout is located just outside of Brookshire, Texas, and uh it's a fabulous place that John has built as an homage. There's a word for you an homage to the Hemi culture and mainly late 60s, early 70s, right, John?

SPEAKER_01

That's correct. That's my love of my life.

Don Armstrong

Yeah, and but here of late, and I say of late, meaning the last I don't know, seven, eight years, you've kind of backed off of the cars and you're into the signs now.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, into the signs, it's getting a little cozy in there now, so even that's starting to slow a little bit, but we still put things in almost every day. So uh, you know, special things. So fill in the holes.

Don Armstrong

Yeah. Well, let's go back to the cars for a second and tell everybody uh what is the what is the collection, what is it made up of?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so uh basically uh my love when I was 18 years old, uh 1970, and the muscle car era was in full swing, as we all know. And for me, uh I had a Dodge Super B and uh I love the Dodge and Plymouth muscle cars. I loved all the cars, but uh Hemi Hideout is uh certainly

Building A Mopar Dream Garage

SPEAKER_01

got a theme behind it uh because of my love. But uh collected the cars, try to get one of each model from say 68 to 71. That was my heyday, so that's what I've basically done. All 446 packs and Hemis except for one 340 duster, which is my favorite.

Don Armstrong

Leave it to me to be the oddball out, right?

SPEAKER_01

It's it's in the will, okay, pal.

Don Armstrong

I appreciate that, but don't look for it today. Yeah, you also have um a super bird in there amongst your collection.

SPEAKER_01

Sure. Is that an original? That's an original. That's uh I'm the second owner. It's got like 38,000 miles on it, it's a 446 pack, and out of the 1,840 that they built, only 277 had the 446 pack. So that made that kind of special. 77 had uh Hemis, and the rest were all 444 barrels.

unknown

Wow.

Don Armstrong

Interesting. And I guess yours has got the most horsepower.

SPEAKER_01

Well, mine's a 446 pack, so it's underneath the Hemi. Oh, I see.

Jeff Dziekan

So there's a there's a lot of these Mopar shows or car collector shows. Uh do any of these folks that think they know what they're doing contact you about any of your vehicles that maybe want to buy them or maybe sell you one?

SPEAKER_01

They do, Jeff, but you know, uh I I'm really not a professional on any of that. I'm just uh the ultimate enthusiast. So I sometimes I get called out on some of my facts that I spill out. But uh I'm just uh an enthusiast really and not a professional, but just love those cars. But yeah, we get calls all the

Superbird Details And Collector Calls

SPEAKER_01

time, uh, people wanting to buy one of those cars or trade or sell one. So but it's getting it's cozy in there now, so it's it's almost a full nest. Yeah.

Don Armstrong

Yeah, and when you have an event out there that isn't really car theme related, um, you also have other events in there that you have to move some of the cars out and allow room for the tables.

SPEAKER_01

That's right. So we you can rent the place out for a private event, and uh we do that uh well, whatever, normally for corporate events is what it's mainly for. But you can come and have a 50-person lunch and it's very affordable. If somebody comes out and rents the place, we match the funds and all of it gets donated to local charities. So it's amazing. Don't want to run it, I don't want to have a full-time business, but it's fun to share it with people anyway. Yeah, absolutely. So for a nice size, let's say a corporate Christmas party, how many people comfortably can you hold in there? 250 is perfect. Anything under 125, it kind of runs out of the pizzazz. You gotta have the party atmosphere, you know. So uh to say we know that you're the party guy. I'm old, but I ain't dead yet. He's taking care of his arteries out there, doesn't he? That's right. I gotta keep those going.

Don Armstrong

Yeah, yeah, I gotta keep them breathing out there. Right. Well, and and we're gonna get to the signs in just a minute, but uh you got a good friend that actually uh put us together uh by the name of Bill Sites, and uh uh Bill painted this uh beautiful thing for me for for my current Corvette. And uh so I said, you know, Bill, I really have never done anything for you and Sharon. I said, let me run some spots for you guys and uh your autographics uh business.

Tours Private Events And Charity Giving

Don Armstrong

And so we're doing that, and uh, I don't know, he probably has gotten hate calls because of it, but uh whatever the case may be. But uh Bill was instrumental in helping you build the Hemi hideout.

SPEAKER_01

He's a prince of a guy, as you well know, just like you three guys, you know. Yeah, that's it.

Jeff Dziekan

I mean, come on, but uh didn't he say that he's he's fabricated stories? I think he's doing one right now. Yeah, well, there's that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

No, but Bill played a major role and really was the catalyst that got me going. I'd still be sitting there talking about it if it hadn't been for Bill. And it's been a wonderful journey for me, Bill, really all of us, you guys, for everybody, the car industry has really been a wonderful ride for us in our lifetimes.

Don Armstrong

Well, yeah, and uh, you know, the and I met Bill back in the car club days when I was actually uh a member, uh, became a member of the San Jacino Corvette Club. And I'll never forget meeting him, Sharon, uh, out there at uh I think it was the town and country, whatever hotel was out there at the time for the monthly meeting where they read the minutes and all the all the garbage that goes along with that. But um, you know, that was 1978, I believe it was. And uh Bill and I have been friends and gone to every kind of event when it comes to cars that you could possibly imagine. Actually, we even started our own club called Corvettes of Houston, which is from what I understand, uh or has been at least a Corvette dealership, if you want to call it.

Jeff Dziekan

I think it's still there.

Don Armstrong

Yeah. Anyway, uh so we and it was Bill that said, Don, listen, I'm involved in this project with this guy that I have met, and uh it's called the Hemi Hideout, and we're in the process of building it right now, and as soon as it gets built, we want you to come out and take a look at it. I went out there and was blown away. Are you kidding me? And what it looks like a church to cars in there. And uh, you know, and you I'll have to explain briefly exactly what the makeup of the actual building itself is.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, make you uh well uh okay, so the building is a uh uh 21,700 square foot uh uh car venue, if you will. It's also neon signs and different memorabilia things of the good old days. Uh it's a scissor arch timber frame building, which is kind of unique for the Texas area because all the timbers have to come from the Pacific Northwest. So in this case, Idaho, and uh you bring the trees down. Most people will build like a gazebo or a great room, but very few people will build a whole building out of timber, but it made just uh gave you the wow factor naked before anything ever went in there. It looked beautiful, and everybody said it looked like a church or a cathedral. And then as we started to hang the neon signs originally 15 years ago, we had collected 240 neon signs. There's 342 neon signs in there now out of 4,500 pieces. But when people come in, they think they're all neon signs. Only 7% of those signs are actually illuminated. Wow. What inspired you to go with that kind of the timber frame technology? I I always wanted to build a like a log home or some kind of wood structure. And then when I so-called retired, uh I thought, well, you know, the clock's ticking. If I'm gonna do it, I better do it now. And I'm glad I did it when I did. I wouldn't do it today. Why wouldn't you do it today? Well, I'm an old goat now, and and you know, don't I wouldn't have enough time to to really enjoy it, or it doesn't, it wouldn't make sense. It really didn't make sense then, but I'm I'm so proud and glad that I did it.

Mike Marrs

Well, you got it's 15 years that you've been able to enjoy it now.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly, exactly, yeah.

Don Armstrong

So and as and more uh important than all of that, I think, is the fact of uh all of the people that you through the HIMI hideout have brought together. It's a people place.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it is. It it really is, and uh we continue every day we get new people to come by and tour and they bring other people. We don't advertise it, it's by word of mouth. So uh every day we have busloads of people that come out, community centers, church groups, whatever. Wow. Um again, we collect a ten dollar fee when they come, we match that, all that goes charity too. So it's fun to share it and we're having fun. All of a reason for the friends to get together and we explain what all that stuff is because when people walk in, most people don't know what is this. They look at it like, what in the heck happened in here? You guys know, you recognize all this. A lot of people just don't get it, they don't understand what they what they love it, but they don't know why they love it. It's just pretty, you know.

Jeff Dziekan

Well, I I find myself when I've walked into it, it's just you you don't talk for a few minutes, you just kind of look around and your eyes are about this big and you're going, wow, this is incredible.

SPEAKER_01

Uh, when we see somebody like that, Jeff, that's when we go get them because we know we're gonna have a lot of fun talking with them.

Jeff Dziekan

And you do, you have your staff is very knowledgeable on all the details of all the things that you have in there, and they give tours, and they're you it's it's just amazing how they can remember all that since you keep adding and changing and things. You talked about corporate events. Do you do weddings in those places?

SPEAKER_01

We've done weddings, uh, but we try to steer away from those because we don't allow kids under the age of 12 to law uh for lawsuit purposes. Oh yeah. We do rehearsal dinners and we do receptions, so those are pretty popular. But again, you're limited to no kids under 12, and that usually uh nixes the the uh wedding venue. Right, right. Yeah, gotcha.

Don Armstrong

Yeah, we don't want little Johnny scratching up the super bird. Or Don Armstrong.

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna say took the word right out of my mouth.

Don Armstrong

Oh, you won't know me too well. Uh yeah, yeah, exactly. Um so you you have a lot of help and you have these volunteers. It's a staff of volunteers, and I say staff because it really is a staff, an unpaid staff, because they love coming there, helping you, and they love meeting the people, and the people love them. It's a it's a it's a big love fest going on out there.

SPEAKER_01

It's a win-win-win all the way around. We just have a great time. So onward

Neon Signs New Finds And Family Roots

SPEAKER_01

through the fog we go. Yeah.

Don Armstrong

So let's talk about the signs here before we l get out of time. Um, okay. What what have you got since uh we saw you last? And by the way, we saw you last August? Could have been I think it was August that because we that was when we didn't.

Jeff Dziekan

Yeah, end of August.

Don Armstrong

Yeah. So uh since last August, have you acquired anything that you're mighty proud of?

SPEAKER_01

Well, we've got a new sign we're working on now. You remember Bill Prokopic, he's a restoration guy. Yep, and we've got a really cool sign that's gonna go up here in a couple of months, and it says everything is bigger in Texas. It's a porcelain sign, and Texas is great big with two X's, and uh it's got a cowboy lassoing a big giant jackrabbit. It's a neon sign, it's huge, it's about 10 by 4, and uh it it's a it's gonna be a neon, it's gonna look really cool.

Mike Marrs

So you're gonna hang it or mount it on the wall?

SPEAKER_01

It'll be it'll be hanging probably in in the the front entry, uh, you know, Mike, where where you where you drive in under that portico because we're running out of space. I love that I was gonna go to the outside under the roof and pretend it'll be under the roof, but it'll be cool and say everything's bigger.

Mike Marrs

Entry, yes. Talk about it. Entry.

Don Armstrong

Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Before you go, I did want to mention to everybody that John's last name is Hovis. And when I moved to Texas and to Houston uh back in the 60s, uh it was Hovis furniture. And uh I know that you're you're your family has a rich history here in in Texas, and especially out in the Brookshire area, because uh was it your grandparents that had the uh mercantile out there?

SPEAKER_01

That's right. That was in 18 late 1800s when they moved from Armenia, and then in 1920 moved into Houston, started Star Furniture Company, and then uh we sold out of three people that started Star. And uh in 1939, my grandfather sold out and we started competing against Star. We lost the war by 1972. That was the end of Hovis Furniture Company, and a few years after that is when I started my manufacturing company.

Don Armstrong

Yeah, and uh and you you went to Memorial High School? I did, I was a legend over there. When you weren't on mine, when you weren't under arrest. That was I've seen pictures of you, including your, I think it was your high school graduation picture.

SPEAKER_01

Well long hair hippie. Man, I was I was driving a 1970 yellow super B hair down to my past my shoulders and uh Rolling Stones on ride open. So it was the good old days.

Mike Marrs

Hey John, we have a question that came in from the internet.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, sir.

Mike Marrs

Uh the question is uh once somebody wants to know, somebody named Diane Hovis wants to know if you're planning on selling any of this stuff.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know who you're talking about. Wrong number. Wrong number. Hang up quick. She'll sell everything for half price. She's got a sign in there that says this is not a museum, everything's for sale. See Diane. Hey Mike, Mike, Mike, get her number.

Mike Marrs

Yeah, get her number. Yeah, right, right. Yeah.

Don Armstrong

Uh listen, uh, we love you guys, and we thank you so much for taking the time to join us today. I know you were going to sleep in late today, but guess what? The in-wheel time car talk show came a knocking, and we sure appreciate you spending the time with us.

SPEAKER_01

I appreciate you guys, your friendship, and all man. Thank you guys again. Y'all are a great big part of our ride that we've had. So thank you all. Love you both. Love you too, man. John.

Don Armstrong

Thanks, and we'll talk again soon, John. We appreciate you. All right, Jeff's Motor Minute and a review of the Electric GMC Sierra when the Ed-Wheel Time Car

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Jeff Dziekan

It'd be a lot of fun. Is that Central Time, Mountain Time? That'd be Central Time. Just make sure that's the question.

Don Armstrong

Okay, time now for Jeff's motor minute.

Jeff’s Motor Minute Rambler Road Trip

Jeff Dziekan

Yeah, how about this? We asked folks to send in pictures of their vehicles, and if you look behind Mike, there's a 1955 Rambler American. It was designed by Panin Farina. And that is Mr. George Skelton's car. It's a 1955 Ramble, like we said. In 1960, his parents drove it to California. He uh rode in the back with a dog, had no seat belts, uh no seat, just a pillow and a blanket. He rode back there with old yeller. Uh had uh a one-wheel luggage uh trailer behind it on a bumper hitch, and they had a swamp cooler because it had a swamp cooler because it didn't have any air conditioning. Swamp coolers have water and air induction on the window. Uh 68, he wrote he shared it with his mom going to high school. Uh it had an 195 horsepower flathead six, three-speed stick, and if you push the clutch all the way down, you could start the car. Uh seat was folded down. Remember that. Had a four-track tape player, speakers that could reach extended about 50 feet if you wanted to take them to the beach or any party. He had his Hobie surfboard on top, and the car chimmy'd at 55 miles an hour. Maybe you should take the surfboard off. Uh and he was blacklisted because he was uh trying to date the Westbury Rebelettes in that car, and they said no, no. Uh and the car's nickname was Green Goose. So thank you, George, for that. Send pictures, a little bio, and we'll get you up there.

Don Armstrong

Love you, George. Thank you very much. All right, time out for this hour's car review. Your old pal Don Armstrong had a chance to drive the 2026 GMC Sierra. Now, this is not just any old Sierra, this is the full-size uh EV Denali max range.

2026 GMC Sierra EV Denali Review

Don Armstrong

And it comes in these trim levels elevation standard range, denali uh standard range, denali extended range, AT four extended range, AT four max range, and denali max range.

Mike Marrs

Big battery just for the name. I need a drink.

Don Armstrong

And I'll tell you this it will it shows on the dash anyway that once it's got a full charge, it'll do 500 miles. Seats, well, um gosh, it depends on how you've got it loaded up. But this particular one here is seats five. Okay. Exterior changes, it was all new in 2024. Sharp looking body style reminds of the old Avalanche in some sort of way, if you look at it from the side. Attractive, unique grill with a solid panel in place of the open grill, like most uh trucks and SUVs have. Big open wheel wells with side marker lights embedded at the top of the you can see them up there at the top of the uh wheel well trim. Okay. Um short box is attractive. I really do like the short box. Uh what could use improvement? That plasticky rear bumper. I think I'd take that off and put me a big chrome one up there for 1968. Well, you could do a roll pen. Interior highlights. Each trim gets its own unique upholstery, huge uh vertical mounted center screen there with a phone charger directly below it. Uh steering wheel controls are easy to understand and use. Uh as far as uh the sidesteps, they're folding and they are handy, I will tell you that. Uh as far as room, it's got a frunk up in the trunk up in the front there. It's small but handy. Uh the back seat folds up. Uh, what I liked about it, overall layout extremely attractive. What could use improvement? Infotainment system does not have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto, and the instrument cluster is a little bit too small for me and my blind eyes. Uh, no shade for the sunroof. And I put on there in Texas?

Jeff Dziekan

Yeah.

Don Armstrong

No, it's got one of those auto dimming kind of roofs on it, which is cool, but man, it's gonna be 100 degrees here before too long. You do the math. Yeah, engine dual motor, 760 horsepower, torque 785 pound feet. Um four-wheel drive is standard. Toe rating 10,200 pounds, haul rating 1,500 pounds in the bed. Uh it gets a 478-mile range when I got it. It's 500, is what the uh folks at GM say. Um I got 2.0 miles per kilowatt hour. If you want to do the math on that, be my guest because I can't. We can call Katie, she'll do it for us. Um it uh gets uh 385 miles per charge according to the computer on the thing. Okay. What I liked about it, the range. So you don't have to stop every 10 minutes to get it recharged. What could use improvement? No, more of it. Just keep it coming. What I liked about it, uh independent rear suspension when it comes to riding handling. What could use improvement? It feels heavy because it is 8,867 pounds, is what it weighs. That's over four tons, folks. Yeah, uh rear axle stealing steering, which you did a feature on last week, that is available so you can get that as well, because it is big and trying to get it into grocery store parking lot space is challenging to say the least. Okay, so here's the pricing. Base trim price, $98,600. Prices tested, $103,715. Base model price. That's the cheapo version, starts at $62.4.

Mike Marrs

That's that's the cheap EV price?

Don Armstrong

That's yeah, that's the cheap EV price. Competitors to the vehicle in base size and price. The F-150 Lightning starts at $49,780 for the 25 model because they stopped building it. Tesla Cybertruck starts at $71,985. You always wondered how much that cost? Yeah, $71,985. Rivian R1T, $70,990. All of those are trucks. Wow. Next week, gonna review the Subaru Outback. We've had them before, but they've changed it up, so they gave me another one, a new one, and uh we hope that

Range Claims Pricing And Real-World Use

Don Armstrong

you'll join us in.

Jeff Dziekan

I have questions about your review. You said it late up 500 miles when you got a full charge. Didn't they have some things with Volkswagen about messing with the cafe standards and wrong mileage ratings? So, how you said there's a formula calculation to do that. Well, you know, interesting.

Don Armstrong

And I will tell everybody this if you're not driven an EV or not familiar with them, that what they say it'll do, okay, it'll do that. Turn the air conditioning off, turn all the accessories off, and uh feather the throttle and then put it on cruise control at about 40 miles an hour, and then you'll be able to get close to the mileage that they state. Now, I've I've was privileged to find out about how they calculate mileage, and they do it on a test track, and they do it down at the bottom of the test track. Mars, you were there to witness it yourself. They were doing it up there at uh Chrysler when we went to that event up there, and uh, and that's what they do. They hit the cruise control button and round and around. Can you imagine having that job?

Jeff Dziekan

If you do it on the road and you hit the cruise control button, as soon as you get all those calculations set up and done, you got to stop for the stop sign.

Don Armstrong

Well, there's that. But I'm we're I think we're talking about freeway driving. Yeah, yeah.

Jeff Dziekan

I have more, but we're running out of time. Okay.

Don Armstrong

Well, uh, that's it. I mean, it it was it was a great vehicle, and if you're into electrics and you're into trucks, this is something that you definitely want to look into because it um it's pretty darn nice. Because the GMC is a step above uh the Chevrolet. And I would imagine that they both come down the same assembly lineup in Arlington.

Jeff Dziekan

It looks like it's an off-road visual of the does look like it, but it's not. Yeah. Well, I really look. Yeah.

Don Armstrong

Yeah. I I don't know. It could very well be a good off-roader. I haven't done any tests like that, but uh it's something to check out if you're into it. Hey, if you'd like to get in touch with us, send us an email. The address is info at inwheeltime.com. We'll be right back after this break. Stay with us. Your car is a direct reflection of you, so don't be satisfied with color fade or a dingy dull appearance. Get rid of those terrible automated car wash scratches. Gulf Coast Auto Shield is your save the paint company. John Gray and his team of detailing experts can help your cars finish without a full repaint. Searching for real experts in window tent or windshield protection, Gulf Coast Auto Shield. Dash cams, radar detectors, Gulf Coast Auto Shield. Got a new car? Get it protected as soon as you take delivery. If you don't know which of the multitude of protection products to go with, John Gray will give you an honest opinion and won't sell you something you don't need. John will help you understand the many options and pricing right on the spot. He's your guy to have your ride

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