White-Glove Car Selling: How Guys with Rides Connects Passionate Collectors

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Welcome to the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show .

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See I stapled all this together . You didn't turn the page again .

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You know , I guess it's just one of those days that I don't want to move on . Okay , well , I'll move on for you . Howdy , howdy , howdy . I loved the last segment . I've loved all the segments and I don't want them to go away .

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She was very good every time we talked to her . I love it . She truly is .

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This is your place for all things automotive the award-winning in-wheel time car talk show coming up . Guys with rides , we'll find out a different way to connect with cars Later . Jeff has the racing calendar , mars has this Week in Auto History and I'll get you caught up on the stories making automotive news headlines . Howdy , along with Mike out of this world , mars . We always need more , jeff Zekin . I'm Don Armstrong , david Ainsley Vacationing in the UP of Michigan .

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But he is listening A couple of years ago at this time , I was up there with him and thoroughly enjoyed my time . I'd never been there . What an absolutely gorgeous place in the summertime that is . That was August Said . The high was going to be 73 today . Yeah , thanks for rubbing it in , dave . Rudy Samsel is with Guys with Rides . This company wanted to create the only online dealer-free community that provides a truly unique experience a place to go for people to discover new cars , connect with like-minded collectible car enthusiasts and share their stories about the cars that they love . Well , that sounds like the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show . It's a marriage made in heaven , rudy . Very good , thank you . I think so too . All right , so I got the description . Now bring it down to our terms , your terms , our terms , that we could all understand . So why am I going to go to Guys With Rides ?

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So I decided to create the . After my experiences at traditional intent auctions and online ones , particularly Bring a Trailer I quickly discovered that you're not on a level playing field if you're bidding on a car , and so my goal here was to create a dealer-free environment . That doesn't mean I'm not anti-dealer In fact , I support them with the variety of parts I buy but if you own a classic or collector car that's been a family air room in particular you want to find a good home for that car , and so I wanted to create a level playing field where private buyers and sellers could be a matchmaker for them on an online site .

Speaker 1 2:50

How is it different than ?

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Hemings . So Hemings does have a variety of dealer auctions on there and classifieds as well . So , besides that we have a community of , so , besides that the prices are also a lot less because we don't have the overhead that , say , a big Hemings does . And what I'm trying to do is be the next step up , say , from putting your car on Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace . If you want to , particularly if you have a very rare car , if you're in a remote area , you can get more eyeballs on the car and get the car sold nationally , if not internationally . So a couple of years ago I had a 76 Cadillac pickup . If you remember those , there were only 200 built and through my search engine optimization techniques , a gentleman in Bern , Switzerland , actually ended up buying that car and taking it to Switzerland . I don't know how he got around the streets , but that's the kind of service .

Speaker 1 4:04

we offer Big snow tires , I'm sure .

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Yeah , for sure yeah .

Speaker 1 4:09

Well , an interesting concept . So how many cars do you have on the site right now ?

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So right now I just sold . Last week I only had one I like to call myself the David in an industry of Goliaths and so I had one and next week I have a gentleman that has six motorcycles interesting motorcycles , but typically , on a given week or so , I might have only two or three . I will point out one thing when Bring a Trailer started in 2014 doing auctions , they were only doing three a week , so small is good , go ahead .

Speaker 2 4:46

Do you ? Is yours like an auction or is it truly ? I've got a car here . I inherited this car from my dad and I want to sell it to somebody that's going to love it just as much as he did .

Speaker 1 4:58

And I'm going to sell it for $20,000 , and I'm firm on that . Do you do that ?

Speaker 3 5:03

I offer two options . So that example you just gave . I had a 62 Thunderbird cross town here and the daughters of the deceased owner asked for my help . So I said in that situation that they're selling his house and they need to get rid of the car or find a new home for it . They really wanted to find something because he loved that car . So we set it up . I said let's start a no reserve auction , but we're going to start the bidding at $3,900 . And we'll also offer it at a buy it now option of $6,000 , depending on .

Speaker 3 5:38

It's a very nice 62 Thunderbird . However , it's been sitting for about five or six years . You can actually watch my YouTube channel and see how I got the car restarted and have it running again . But so ultimately , what happened is they agreed to that Bidding started at $3,900 . And then last on Thursday , the car sold for $4,600 . Now , conversely , I have another gentleman to the dollars . Now , conversely , I have another gentleman to the uh , he has a 1984 ford mustang svo 14 000 miles and he's firm on the price . He's asking 19.5 for the car and so we have the buy now buy it now or make an offer listing . So we're waiting for some offers to come in on that and see where it goes and they can decide whether to stay firm on the 19.5 or accept if it's a reasonable counteroffer .

Speaker 1 6:33

All the cars that you're selling on your site . Are they all classics or antiques ? Or can you sell Jeff's Buick Envision

Introducing Guys with Rides

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2025 model ?

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I haven't gone that new . I generally it's been . I think the newest I've had is recently had a 2014 Porsche 911 . And a couple of years ago I had a 2012 Porsche Rolls-Royce . I'm not averse to anything relatively new . It depends on the car .

Speaker 1 7:08

So the Rolls-Royce did you insist that you take it for a test drive so you could figure out exactly what it was really ?

Speaker 3 7:14

all about yeah , no , I rode in the car you did ride .

Speaker 5 7:21

Okay , see , I knew there was something . He rode in the back . He rode in the back .

Speaker 3 7:27

That's what I had , to make sure everything was quiet . Yeah , yeah exactly .

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Research , research Did you take any Grey Poupon with you ? No , sir .

Speaker 3 7:38

Yeah , that was already in the glove box . All right , you got to do it right . Funny story about that car , though . Funny story about that car , though . The gentleman was handicapped and he had one of those I forget what those knobs are called that you might put on a normal tractor .

Speaker 1 7:54

There's many words for them .

Speaker 3 7:55

And he had that taken off after the sale and it ended up not selling on my site . It went to a competitive site and he took that off and the next buyer was not happy with the indent it made and the steering wheel for that car . Just the part was , I think , $7,000 . Poof .

Speaker 1 8:17

Yeah , well , I think I'd have to take it down to the upholstery shop . $1.98 balling .

Speaker 4 8:22

That's right , yeah , $1.98 .

Speaker 3 8:24

Bali . That's right . Yeah , so the key thing here is it's $1 to list and then you pay for a seller and they only pay $49 more if the car sells , conversely a buyer when they buy the car . So the gentleman the other day that purchased the Thunderbird for $4,600 only charged 1% . So $46 on the $4,600 . And I capped that at $500 . So , compared to the traditional tent auctions or even the online auctions , I believe I offer the lowest fares in the industry currently .

Speaker 3 9:09

So you're kind of like a very personalized concierge as far as the seller goes , kind of thing , that's great . I use white glove , but absolutely yes .

Speaker 2 9:18

So I understand that and I think it's great , because I know there's a lot of people that do inherit vehicles and they're not sure what to do with them , but they just don't want to turn them loose to just anybody . What about as I'm a buyer ? Do you do any of that kind of services ? I'm looking for a particular kind of car .

Speaker 3 9:36

I do . I get calls from time to time and I do offer that . I haven't monetized that in any way , I just do it as a nice service . I will be candid about that . I'll get a call from somebody and they'll ask hey , I'm looking for this car , and so for my YouTube channel and the website , six days a week , I do a daily theme , like today was Sports Car Saturday , and I challenged myself to find seven vehicles under $15,000 that I would personally want in my garage , and so that often motivates people to reach out and say , hey , I'm looking for this car , and more often than not , when I do find it a couple of months later , they're like oh yeah , my circumstances have changed and I really can't , you know , do the car ?

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right , so spare of the moment type thing .

Speaker 1 10:28

Yeah , yeah , yeah oh well , very interesting . Um , so you got one on there today and um , they're looking for more , apparently , and I guess this is a . This is a nationwide deal , correct ?

Speaker 3 10:42

it is . I've and I have had a couple of cars from canada . A couple years ago I had a volkswagen beetle out of uh winnipeg and the gentleman restored and he wasn't getting any eyeballs on the car there .

Speaker 1 10:54

Put it on the site and because nobody lives there you know , anybody that lives in winnipeg I know they got a hockey team , that's about right and if they do ?

Speaker 2 11:03

they don't want to drive .

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Volkswagen Exactly .

Speaker 3 11:10

Yeah , I had to laugh at it because , coming from western New York and having a Volkswagen Beetle in college , I can't even imagine you get frostbite on your feet driving that thing around .

Speaker 1 11:20

People don't understand the weather in Canada because I mean , it's Canada and it gets cold up there and all I can think of is that Canadian highway . They do all those trucker shows and the wrecks and stuff on there and the snow going this way as opposed to straight down in a beautiful background . No , it's a highway that's come to a complete stop for hours on end . Yeah , no , I'm all good about that where are you located , rudy ?

Speaker 3 11:49

so I am in uh , flemington , new jersey , and that's are you from jersey ?

Speaker 4 11:55

I'm from jersey too I'm from buffalo from buffalo .

Speaker 3 11:59

He was quick to correct that , yeah , exactly . But uh , if you're not familiar with you know everybody hears jersey and they think of Tony Soprano .

Speaker 2 12:06

Exactly .

Speaker 3 12:07

Yeah , but it's known as the Garden State , that's right . And I'm in Hunterdon County . So where I'm standing right now , times Square is 52 miles that way and the Liberty Bell in Philadelphia is 54 miles that way . So I'm out in the country . I'm about eight miles from the Delaware River , miles that way . So I'm out in the country , I'm about eight miles from the Delaware River and people don't realize it , but this even I didn't when I moved down here 15 years ago . This area of the country , arguably , the car culture is as strong as California , it's just that our season is much shorter . I could go to any cars and coffee around here , whether I go towards New York or Bucks County , and I will see anything you can imagine . I will see that . You know I had never seen an Alfa Romeo Montreal , if you remember one of those . A guy brought that out one day . Of course you see a cadre of Lamborghinis and Ferraris . So it's a very rich culture and and I've just been amazed with it .

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Well , uh , we uh had a friend that uh actually uh was from long island , did some drag racing there back at the beginning of the drag racing era and uh , he speaks very highly of the car culture up there . And you know we're down here , we're in houston , texas . Who would have ever thunk in a million years that we've got a car culture ? And you know we're talking about horses and guns down here Cowboys , yeah , cowboys .

Speaker 1 13:31

No , it's not that way . But yes , I found that the car culture is very rich all across the United States when I did the drag racing thing and I can tell you it's alive and well . Well , we wish you the best of luck with your website and your venture here , and it's great talking to you and learning about your website , guyswithridescom , correct .

Speaker 3 13:55

Thank you and my heart goes . My heart , thoughts and prayers go out to all your listeners

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affected by the floods last week .

Speaker 1 14:03

Yeah , terrible , terrible thing in Central Texas and we appreciate that . I can tell you , Rudy , it's great to talk to you . Take care of yourself , We'll be in touch .

Speaker 3 14:10

Thanks , rudy . All right , thank you , boys , Take care .

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Rudy Samsel with .

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It's a good idea . It is I like his idea , guyswithridescom .

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All right , why don't we take a little break , shall we ? Just ahead , jeff has the racing calendar and Mars has this week in auto history . All right , I'll bring you some more of this week's automotive news headlines . The In-Wheel Time Car Talk Show is back in a flash .

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Speaker 4 16:26

Time now for the racing calendar . Jeffrey , okay , hey , we've got . Imsa Racing is coming up August 3rd , so it's a few weeks away . At Road America , it will be on Peacock and at 2 pm , so tune into that . If you've got it . Formula 2 pm , so tune into that . If you've got it , formula One not going on until the end of the month , you've got the Belgian Grand Prix . That's going to be in Cirque du Spa , french Humps . Wait a minute , let me see that . Yeah , right there , look at that .

Speaker 1 16:49

Cirque I think we had that for dinner last week . Cirque du Spa , franco-american champs , that's what . I said I think they make SpaghettiOs 44 laps .

Speaker 4 16:55

That's what they're going to do . And then you got Indy . Well , indy's going to be July 12th , which is today . It's the Iowa race . It's going to be Iowa and Newton Iowa . That goes on at 4 pm this afternoon . You also have Craftsman Trucks . They haven't been running in a while , but July 25th they're going to be out a few more weeks Going to be doing that Xfinity Series . The junior guys , they're going to be in Sonoma . That's this weekend . And of course , the big boys are also in Sonoma as well . Nhra they're off this week , I believe . Yes .

Speaker 1 17:27

I don't know , I don't keep up with them anymore .

Speaker 2 17:29

Well , try to , you know , trying to get them to join us , and they're hard to find .

Speaker 1 17:33

No , where do you find them on television anymore ?

Speaker 4 17:36

It used to be on Fox , then it goes to .

Speaker 2 17:38

FS1 . I am not buying Amazon . I'm not buying it .

Speaker 1 17:43

I am not buying television .

Speaker 2 17:45

It's not happening . Three day or three week old television on top of that .

Speaker 1 17:49

Alright , Mr Barr , it's time now for this Week in Auto History .

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Yeah , buddy , this Week in Auto History , 1907 . Rolls-royce Silver Ghost sets an endurance record by going by completing a 15,000 mile endurance race across britain . Now , this is part of established their reputation for reliability and luxury . Now this vehicle was named the silver ghost for its quiet ride and silver finish . Now , this also led to the famous slogan the best car in the world . A magazine , a journalist , dubbed it . That after watching it and how it performed in this event . Then , in 1910 , alice Ramsey crosses America . She completed a 3,800-mile journey from New York to San Francisco , becoming the first woman to drive coast-to-coast across the US . Now , it took her 59 days to make this drive and she endured mechanical breakdowns on paved roads , weather challenges , but anyway , this served to challenge other women to get involved and in 2000 , finally , in 2000 , she was honored by the Automotive Hall of Fame for her achievement . Well , she's got a nice jacket on . I'll tell you that . I'm telling you it's a little toasty . Yeah , that's a Can't hide lots of stuff under there , didn't she steal ?

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it from her husband to do this . 1928 Chrysler buys Dodge From the Dodge brothers , kind of indirectly , because they've been acquired partially by another company . Anyway , long story short , they had a reputation for quality and innovation which gave Chrysler access to Also a strong dealer network and a broader customer base . Now this is part of what allowed Chrysler To become one of the Big three automakers During their rise In the industry . Now they only make One dang car .

Speaker 1 19:27

I thought there was two . Chrysler Pacifica Is the only one I know of .

Speaker 2 19:31

I think you're right Also in 1957 the Fiat , the fabulous Fiat 500 , debuts in Italy . It offered an Affordable and efficient vehicle for a post-war population which was really important for the development of Italy . It was a rear-engine city car . It had a 479cc two-cylinder engine with 15 horsepower . The 500 became a symbol of Italian urban life and helped motorize the nation and kind of got them moving after the war . Then in July 10 , 1962 , shelby Cobra production begins , the famous production of the legendary Shelby Cobra Carroll . Shelby's vision of combining

Car Culture Across America

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a lightweight British AC Roadster with a powerful American Ford V8 birthed a performance icon and to this day there's kit cars galore out there mimicking this vehicle . It dominated road racing in the 1960s . It became a symbol of American ingenuity . Then in 1996 , this one surprised me GM was the first public viewing of the GM EV1 . You know who had one of those ?

Speaker 2 20:36

Dan Patrick Are you kidding me no .

Speaker 1 20:39

And it was a loner because he had a radio show at the time . Yeah , yeah , and it was a loner and I got to see that thing up close . That was probably one of the ugliest cars I think I've ever seen well , that may be why it didn't list .

Speaker 4 20:48

It was those that don't know .

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Dan patrick is the lieutenant governor of texas yeah , lieutenant , lieutenant dan the evn electric vehicle uh was produced was viewed by the public in 1996 at the LA Auto Show . It's really the first mass-produced electric car from a major automaker . It was a bold step to zero emission mobility and , as you can see , according to the World Today , it didn't last very long . It was eventually canceled , sparked by public outcry . And they bought them all back , I think , or something . Yeah , yeah , and they had . There's a documentary called who Killed the Electric Car about that vehicle .

Speaker 1 21:24

Nobody would buy that . Who would buy that ? Somebody that has absolutely no taste whatsoever .

Speaker 2 21:29

If it had an outboard motor on the back of it , I think you could do that .

Speaker 1 21:32

Yeah , let's see how far we can jump it off of the pier out into the ocean .

Speaker 4 21:37

That would be a good thing . So what you're telling me is that it's pretty much a boat anchor is what you're telling me . Pretty much .

Speaker 2 21:41

That's what it is Pretty much this week in automotive history . There you go . Thank you , Michael .

Speaker 1 21:45

Well , thank you so much for that . Federal lawsuit alleges predatory and deceptive practices by a Missouri dealership involving the sale and financing of a used 2021 Volkswagen ID4 . It's an electric Including multiple unauthorized credit polls , falsified income statements and forced contract negotiations or renegotiations . No , Frederick and Sarah Evans contend that Sykeston Ford Lincoln in Sykeston engaged in a yo-yo scheme Yo-yo by offering credit terms it didn't mean to honor and then offering worse credit terms . The couple took possession of the vehicle . In subsequent iterations of the sales contract , the interest rate rose to 7.74% , the warranty dropped to 100,000 miles and gap coverage , which the Evanses wanted , was eliminated . According to the suit , May 23rd complaint at Sykeston Ford inflated the Evanses' income on loan applications , submitted unauthorized applications to lenders without their knowledge and failed to provide them with the paperwork necessary to register the car , damaging their credit rating . Ultimately , in August of last year , a dealership representative went with police to their home and threatened criminal charges unless they surrendered the car , which they reluctantly did .

Speaker 1 23:12

They contacted the FBI , missouri Attorney General , better Business Bureau and Federal Trade Commission but failed to resolve the dispute before going to court . General Better Business Bureau and Federal Trade Commission , but failed to resolve the dispute before going to court . It seeks compensatory and punitive damages under the Equal Credit Opportunity Act , truth in Lending Act and State Consumer Protection Law and for wrongful possession , negligence and breach of contract . Oops , oh , so sorry .

Speaker 4 23:38

We have a few minutes here . He's not from Florida .

Speaker 1 23:40

We have a few minutes here and I wanted to introduce everybody to my lovely daughter , katie Armstrong , who I've talked about on this show many , many times . Katie , hi Hi , oh , wait a minute , you got to be . Wait a minute .

Racing Calendar and Auto History

Speaker 1 23:56

Oh , I see .

Speaker 2 23:56

I gave her the guest . I gave her the guest .

Speaker 1 23:58

You put her in your place and then you gave her the guest .

Speaker 2 24:01

That was special , okay , well , good , now I can hear you .

Speaker 1 24:04

That was two hours ago , I had to press the button over here .

Speaker 5 24:07

Hello .

Speaker 1 24:08

Hello , thanks for coming . So Katie , the world traveler with her satellite company , has gotten a promotion . She is now the big cheese . She gave me that look . No , I'm not , no , just part of the big cheese , you are the big cheese . I'm not the big cheese . What were you saying ?

Speaker 5 24:28

Part of the big cheese .

Speaker 1 24:29

Part of the big cheese . Yeah , yeah , the world traveler that . How was your last trip to Croatia , Katie ?

Speaker 5 24:38

Once we got there , it was great , but the adventure of getting there was a nightmare .

Speaker 1 24:43

Yeah , the trip from Denver .

Speaker 5 24:47

To Frankfurt .

Speaker 1 24:47

To Frankfurt , and then the layover in Frankfurt was what A day .

Speaker 5 24:52

Was supposed to be four hours and it ended up being a full day .

Speaker 1 24:55

A full day , and then they go to this island in Croatia .

Speaker 5 24:59

Yes .

Speaker 1 24:59

Yeah , this is a company fun thing to go and do the company off-site .

Speaker 2 25:05

Uh-huh yeah , croatia has islands .

Speaker 4 25:08

They do .

Speaker 1 25:09

Very pretty country it was beautiful the pictures that she sent back . We'd want to go there in the summertime I don't know about that In a remote . Maybe we could offer that vacation destination a special deal .

Speaker 4 25:26

We'll do our show from there , you pay for the trip yeah , do they drive on the right side of the road or the wrong side of the road ?

Speaker 5 25:31

the right okay are they correct ?

Speaker 1 25:34

correct side so for those of you that don't know , katie is my engineer daughter that works for a satellite company , uh , and she was in college for about 12 , 14 years and we finally got her graduated and she's done okay for herself . She brought her boyfriend here to meet her mother and I and he's okay .

Speaker 2 25:59

I met him too .

Speaker 1 26:00

He's sitting over there Nice young man ?

Speaker 4 26:02

Yes , he is .

Speaker 1 26:03

And we're glad to have him and it's good to meet him . So what are you working on at your job right now ?

Speaker 5 26:10

Well , my position is the launch lead for all of the satellites that we do launch from Vandenberg . We are usually on a SpaceX transporter mission , transporter mission it's a ride share for a bunch of different satellites , so we just buy a spot and then we .

Speaker 4 26:29

So you're like the Uber of space .

Speaker 5 26:31

They're the Uber for satellites . We are the company that we work for is the Uber for the payloads that we put on a satellite .

Speaker 1 26:41

Yeah , so it's a long lead . I was going to say Didn't you tell me that there's going to be like three satellites that you're launching on this one ?

Speaker 5 26:49

This one will be two .

Speaker 1 26:50

Two , two satellites , and each one has its own little life . It's onto itself , so you have to treat them as separate kind of things . Yes , it's like putting two cars in the payload instead of one .

Speaker 2 27:03

Oh , and they're different . Makes a Ford and a Chevy .

Speaker 1 27:07

Well , one's going to be recalled , that's the Ford one that's being recalled .

Speaker 4 27:09

If we wanted to get an in-wheel time satellite , could you get us a deal ?

Speaker 1 27:14

Sure .

Speaker 2 27:18

Love the confidence .

Speaker 1 27:20

So we're kind of on a whirlwind tour today . Our next stop when I leave the studio today I'm taking them to Bucky's . He's never been to Bucky's .

Speaker 4 27:29

He's going to be outfitted in Bucky shorts and t-shirts and then we're going to go meet her best friend over at Loopy One , so it's going to be a fun-filled afternoon . Watch out , stan , he's coming your way and I understand that they're back in town , so it ought to be a fun time . Come in your way , stan All right , the In Wheel Time Show .

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world , mars .

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Chief Engineer David Ainsley .

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I'm Don Armstrong . Thank you , katie Armstrong . Thank you , marco , for coming . It's good to see you guys . Drive safe out there , stay cool and enjoy your summer from all of us at the In Real Time Car Talk Show .