Steering Through Texas: The Rise of Mini Trucks and JDM Culture

Import Vehicle Legalization in Texas

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Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast , a 30-minute mini version of the In Wheel Time Car Show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am , central . Thanks for joining us on the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show Ahead . Texas Import Society . I like the name . What's legal and what's not in Texas ? Uh-oh , mini trucks Question mark .

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Later , jeff has this week's Motor Minute and I'll have also this week's stories making automotive news headlines . Howdy , along with Mike out of this world , mars . We always need more . Jeff Zekin . I'm Don Armstrong . Thanks so much for joining us on this Saturday for our live broadcast . We've got podcasts throughout the week . We do New one every day . Our live show airs on Saturday morning so you can catch us live Tune in , tune in . If you're not tuning in already , tune in . Well , we have a guest this hour . His name is David McChristian . He's with the Texas Import Society . David , good morning , good morning . Thanks for having us on again . Hey , thank you for joining us . We really appreciate it . So you're a young guy . Mini trucks Is that what we're going to talk about today ?

Speaker 2 1:23

Yeah , yes , sir . Last time we talked to you was middle of December . Mini trucks K vehicles were not street legal in Texas and as of April 4th 2024 , they are now street legal due to the work that we've done .

Speaker 1 1:34

Way to go , bravo .

Speaker 2 1:37

Got Greg with me . He's got some cool stuff to show you and talk about them .

Speaker 1 1:40

Okay , great .

Speaker 2 1:46

So let's define , for everybody that doesn't know , what a mini truck is . So a mini truck that was kind of . The issue was the definition of what it is , what it means . We specifically wanted to talk about K trucks , that are Japanese mini trucks . So the DMV kind of lumped everything together . Their policy was kind of vague and left a lot of it up to interpretation .

Speaker 1 2:10

Is it just mini trucks ? Is it every K vehicle ? And that's kind of what we want to clarify . Well , first of all , explain what is K vehicle . What does that mean , K vehicle ?

Speaker 2 2:15

So K class vehicles ? Greg might have a better definition of it than I do , but it's the class of vehicles in Japan that are regulated by the government . Engine displacement , size , dimensions is all regulated by the government .

Speaker 1 2:31

They're small , they get tax breaks in Japan , so it's just a small class of vehicle that we don't really see here in the United States , so it's not a Chevy .

Speaker 2 2:35

Love . No , I mean they're similar in size .

Speaker 3 2:39

I had a Chevy Love .

Speaker 1 2:40

Did you have a Chevy Love ? I had a .

Speaker 3 2:41

Chevy Love four-wheel drive .

Speaker 1 2:42

I had a black one , I remember when the Chevy Loves came out , everybody went wow , I like that , look at how small it is . It moved to Texas in it , did you ? Yeah , there you go , A Chevy Love . And I know Ford had the Ranger .

Speaker 3 2:55

It was owned by General .

Speaker 1 3:01

Motors , but it had a Nisuzu motor in it , so okay , so now we've got the definition of it and who ? Who's over there on the right hand side of the screen I'm greg .

Speaker 4 3:11

I'm uh in austin , texas . I own atx custom auto . Uh , we specialize in the maintenance um and modification of import vehicles that were never available in the us .

Speaker 1 3:22

So I guess now you've got about 20 vehicles ready to pull into the shop , now that it's all legalized .

Speaker 4 3:30

Oh , we were working on them well before they were fully legalized . It's Texas People still wanted them and they still got them , whether or not .

Speaker 1 3:38

Kind of flying under the radar a bit .

Speaker 4 3:41

Exactly . Now it's no longer the case .

Speaker 1 3:44

There isn't that taboo on well , I have to ask you so . I mean , if you had one and you were driving it on the street , would a police officer know that it wasn't legal ?

Speaker 4 3:52

I mean , I wouldn't it depends on the police officer and in my personal um experience , they're more interested in seeing what's up , why you're driving on the wrong side of the vehicle . What is this little truck you're driving that's hauling so much in the back ?

Speaker 3 4:10

There is a little shop in Rosenberg , texas I go by it quite often that actually has one of these as a delivery vehicle for their food products . But it just delivers in that neighborhood . It doesn't get on the highway and go 10 miles or anything . It's like within a three mile radius of that shop .

Speaker 1 4:27

Okay , so let's talk about what is available to us here in the United States regarding a K vehicle .

Speaker 2 4:36

David would have a better idea than I do .

Speaker 4 4:38

Okay , so I mean there are different classifications of K vehicles and I actually have quite a few , but the biggest one , obviously the one that was focused on , were mini trucks . K trucks they're made by every major Japanese manufacturer Honda , nissan , subaru , mazda , going on and they all pretty much look the exact same , with a couple of aesthetic differences .

Speaker 1 5:02

Now is this the one that we're showing now . It's like a cab over and then a truck bed in the back . It's the Suzuki .

Speaker 3 5:08

Carry if you can't see it .

Speaker 4 5:09

The traditional K truck and I had two of them is a mid-engined or rear-engined design . Underneath the bed , underneath the bed ? Yeah , underneath the bed of the truck . How do you work on the motor if it's underneath the bed , underneath ?

Speaker 1 5:26

the bed , yeah , underneath the bed of the truck . How do you work on the motor if it's underneath the bed ?

Speaker 4 5:29

carefully . So here is your traditional k truck . Okay , it's a small truck , it's about 10 feet long . You have your engine access panel right there , got it . Anything on the top of it and everything below is very nice and easy to work on . I have one up on the lift as well , doing a full transmission change on it .

Speaker 1 5:53

Now , okay , so what is the one that you just showed us ? Who makes that ?

Speaker 4 5:56

one . So that one is a Honda Acty , and that's probably the most known name when it comes to K-trucks because there have been tons of uh stories done about them specifically . Can you buy a new one ? So that's where it gets into the federal . Yes , you can buy a new one in japan . However , since it has to hit the 25 year mark before we can bring it over to america and import it legally , not really .

Speaker 1 6:24

Gotcha , so I'm not good at math , but I guess we can all do the math . We're looking at about a 1999? .

Speaker 4 6:33

Correct , got . It Is the newest one and that was actually the start of a new generation of a lot of the mini trucks , so a lot of different face styles of the trucks will be starting to poke their heads out as well .

Speaker 1 6:44

See , I would call that a cab over . It's a cab over to me design because you're right up front , actually in front of well , your legs are in front of the front wheels yeah , you're on top of one axle on many okay , gotcha , and so I uh explain to me , if you can , why they would put the engine in the back . Was it for the price point ?

Speaker 4 7:09

Why would the price point , but economics , um , in terms of delivery and fuel economy , having the engine right there , it's similar to a front wheel drive car you have the engine and you have the power being transferred directly to the wheels , without the need for a drive shaft or a transfer case things like that . So mechanically , it makes more sense , especially because of the k regulations that david uh had already brought into play . All of these vehicles are limited to a 658 cubic centimeter engine or smaller like a motorcycle engine pretty much yes , so you're so there's no four-wheel drive yeah , they .

Speaker 4 7:48

So there are four-wheel drive ones , but they are less fuel economy so you're more towards uh farm trucks and commercial use you're in austin , where is david at ?

Speaker 1 7:59

I'm just north of houston okay I could tell you're a lot closer .

Speaker 3 8:06

So with your shop I mean you're open seven days a week , five days a week it looks like you've got a pretty big space there with a lot of other things going on .

Speaker 4 8:14

Yeah , I'm open pretty much by appointment and it all depends on what the customer needs . It could be seven days a week , it could be , you know , 10 pm on a Friday night that they want to drop off their car , just like this R34 Skyline that just got dropped off yesterday .

Speaker 3 8:29

Oh yeah .

Speaker 4 8:29

Lucky you .

Speaker 1 8:33

So you guys are all about the import stuff ? Well , look at his shirt .

Speaker 3 8:36

Did you see his shirt ? All things Z JDM .

Speaker 1 8:39

There you go . So I can't buy a new one , so can you facilitate the purchase of one for me ?

Speaker 4 8:48

Absolutely . We not only do roll-on , roll-off shipping via normal carriers , we actually bring over containers from Japan with parts in them , because most of these vehicles again were never available in the US . So the ability to get parts . You can't just run to AutoZone and get most of your parts , so we'll bring them in in a container and so we have stock of parts and are able to distribute them for either the at-home mechanic they need the parts , they don't know where to get it , we get it for them or they bring it in . We have them ready to go and we're able to work on it .

Speaker 1 9:20

What's the most popular vehicle in this K-Line that you have . What most popular vehicle in this K line that you ?

Speaker 4 9:27

have what's the most popular ? What do you do the most of ? I would say many trucks are in general I mean , I won't specify a brand on that because there are just so many that come in . The second one down is typically a Honda beat . I've had three of those in already and those are essentially the same engine as the mini truck but in a tiny roadster design okay , greg .

Speaker 1 9:50

How do you know david uh through prison ?

Speaker 4 9:57

uh , we actually met during a k truck group and uh have just been working on the advocacy since uh trying to get this passed and , you know , shared similar interests .

Speaker 1 10:07

Interesting . Okay , so do you guys get together for meets and stuff like that ? I mean , do you have joint ? Got some in Austin , some here in Houston .

Speaker 2 10:16

We haven't got together yet . I've met a ton of people when I started this back in September 23 . But we're planning a big K rally in Austin in November of this year .

Speaker 3 10:26

Okay so .

Speaker 2 10:26

I've , but most of the people I've met it's just been through the internet , just people that were in a similar situation , you know , that were having trouble getting title and registration for their truck , and I started this group to help those people . Innocent victims .

Speaker 3 10:39

I've got . I've got some money burning a hole in my pocket and I come to you in Austin and I say I want one of these . Give me an idea of a cost and then how long it would take for me to actually take ownership .

Speaker 4 10:50

So it depends on , again , the model , your budget and the features you want . A lot of the K trucks , as you can imagine , being from Japan didn't come with AC , so that's an added feature . But typically for a basic K truck Honda Acty you're looking at $7,000 to $8,000 out the door and for something what's considered the Porsche of K trucks a supercharged Subaru Sandbar you're looking at probably $12,000 to $13,000 out the door , so affordable these are the affordable hikes .

Speaker 3 11:22

So when you get to the four-wheel drive , I'm thinking beach , you know , running up and down the beach or a retirement community . You don't need four-wheel drive for that .

Speaker 2 11:31

But you're headed there , so we were all good .

Speaker 3 11:33

Yeah , yeah , so how long would it take to get one ?

Speaker 4 11:38

Typically from the time we find it to the time it gets over here , about two months , Okay .

Speaker 1 11:44

And then , once you get it , do you have to do anything for it ? I mean , I mean , is it running , not running ? What kind of condition is it in ?

Speaker 4 11:53

So I work with a number of specific exporters in Japan , so all the vehicles that we get are 100% running . I , just as a personal thing , I always do a maintenance once it hits this side of the ocean anyway , because it's been traveling on a ship uh , on the water for you know six weeks . At that point there's no reason not to , just in case someone you know , a port worker , decided to go happy fun with your truck all around you know , doing burnouts in the whole test drive around .

Speaker 4 12:28

You know , yeah , doing burnouts in the whole test drive , we'll make sure to swap out the radio with one that picks up american stations . Um , because they do . Japanese have a different frequency band that they work with , so the only overlapping channel you get is , uh , typically 89.5 fm , which in most markets I've found is classical music . So so until you swap out that radio , you're looking at radio silence for a little

JDM Enthusiasts Discuss Vehicle Regulations

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bit .

Speaker 1 12:49

How did you get into this ? Well , let's go to David . David , how did you get into this ?

Speaker 2 12:55

So I've always wanted a Pajero Mini , which is an SUV K vehicle .

Speaker 1 12:59

We know , somebody that's got a Pajero yeah .

Speaker 2 13:03

So those are awesome . I've always wanted one Pajero , yeah yeah . So those , those are awesome , I've always wanted one . Um , you know the nineties , uh , k vehicles are kind of like the , you know the , uh , the ones that everybody , the best generation of them , uh , so I looked into that . Those are a little bit more expensive to get than I , you know , got onto the mini trucks and got one of those . So , um , just just wanting something different , wanting something to work on . I used to be into diesel trucks and got married and had kids , so I wanted something a little bit cheaper to work on and tinker with .

Speaker 1 13:29

How funny is that ? And how about you , Greg ? How did you get into this Same way ?

Speaker 4 13:33

Pretty much the same way . I mean , growing up , I always preferred imports . I've been working on cars since I was about nine . The first car I built myself was a Nissan Z car , an 83 280ZX and so ever since then , then it's all been jdm or japanese imports for me nissan , subarus , mostas , things like that . Um , and then I drove my first right hand drive car that wasn't available in r31 skyline and I was like , oh , this is completely different than anything that I've ever been offered here in the states . And since then , uh , it's all . It's all been about the cars that were never available here .

Speaker 1 14:08

I think it was Monty Python that said and now for something completely different .

Speaker 3 14:17

There's a young man near where I live that has a right-hand drive . I'm not sure the car itself .

Speaker 1 14:21

Is it like that , or ?

Speaker 3 14:22

is it a truck ? No , it's a car . It's probably a JDM , whatever it is . It's like the one behind you , but it's a , it like that . Or is it a truck ? No , it's a , it's a car . It's , it's probably a jdm , whatever it is .

Speaker 1 14:26

Um , it's like the one behind you , uh , but it's right hand drive interesting , interesting car um , okay , I'm thinking , I'm thinking this , this matt , uh , big meat that you've got coming up , that's going to be . Is it going to be a nationwide invite , your friends and family kind of event ?

Speaker 2 14:46

So the idea behind it was before we got this policy change at the DMV . So now , according to the DMV , they're fully street legal . There was never any legislation passed one way or the other that mentioned these trucks , so it was all regulated by DMV policy . So before the next session in 2025 , we wanted to get a group together , get some publicity out , let people know what they are , what we're trying to do , and help get some just hype going out around the 2025 session and getting a bill passed to finally protect these trucks you know , outside of DMV policy , get a state statute passed and have a more concrete assurance that they're not going to flip flop the policy again here in five , six years or whatever it is .

Speaker 1 15:25

Well , I know that our friends the Lilienthals , they live over on the West Coast and they're big into the JDM , the Pajero in particular , and they have modified it and they go camping with it and do all these crazy things with it . Nobody knows what it is . We certainly didn't know . They've kind of schooled us on that . So , there's apparently some underground network of people like yourselves that are really into this , and I am sure , in a city that has , you know , 7 million people like Houston , I would imagine that there's probably quite a following .

Speaker 2 16:06

Yeah , there's a pretty good following all over the country and one of the reasons why we started this group is because , starting in about 2021 , there's been a crackdown on JDM vehicles many trucks . More specifically , in Maine , they totally banned any JDM right-hand drive vehicle from road use .

Speaker 2 16:19

They call them off-road vehicles . They don't meet federal motor vehicle safety standards , not eligible for registration and title . That's spread throughout the country , most recently Georgia . They kind of have a vague policy now that pretty much limits any JDM vehicle , any right-hand drive vehicle . Any vehicle that has a short VIN is their metric that they use , which would incorporate or involve most JDM vehicles . So we wanted to get ahead of it in Texas before they started sending people letters in the mail revoking their titles and registration , like they did in Maine and in Georgia .

Speaker 1 16:48

Well , I find it interesting that the government is involved in this . Yet they've got right-hand drive vehicles when they deliver the mail , Yep .

Speaker 2 16:55

Yeah , I mean , that's one of the weird things . It all comes back to the AAMVA , which is the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators , motor Vehicle Administrators . They're a nonprofit organization , non-governmental organization that advises state and local governments , federal governments , on their transportation policy , what vehicles they should allow , what they should write tickets for , and they want to have uniform regulation all throughout the country . So they recommended a ban on these trucks and DMVs across the country are taking their word , putting their word in policy and banning these trucks . Well , that's a bunch of garbage .

Speaker 1 17:27

Who are these jerks .

Speaker 2 17:30

It is interesting you know they get . There's a Norwegian light bulb company that gives them money . So I don't know why a Norwegian light bulb company would have any interest in what vehicles are on roads in Texas . But kind of knowing their motivations , who's behind the group , where their money's coming from , how they spend their money is interesting that they would pick these trucks to pick on .

Speaker 1 17:48

Oh , it's a bunch of old white-haired men like us . They're going . Well , we can't bring that in here . Wally Walrus is all . I can think of , I want one too , I want one too , but you know we're of that generation . It's like , ah , screw you , we're going to go do this anyway , we're going to do it anyways .

Speaker 2 18:06

Yeah yeah , it's under the guise of safety . They say they don't meet federal motor vehicle safety standards and emission requirements , but we're talking about 25-year-old trucks that have federal exemptions for those things , like any other vehicle .

Speaker 1 18:16

It doesn't meet federal safety reg . Okay , tell me that a motorcycle does .

Speaker 3 18:20

What's the top speed on it ?

Speaker 4 18:27

Greg on it . Uh , greg might have a better idea . Um , that depends on make and model . Yeah , it very much varies between make and model . Your basic honda acty , two-wheel drive or four-wheel drive , tops out about 55 60 miles an hour not bad your higher end .

Speaker 3 18:38

So you're not even going to make the minimum speed on the beltway that's right .

Speaker 1 18:42

All I can is hey , all these electric people thinking about electric cars , get you one of these . Go back and forth to church , go to the grocery store , pick up the kids at the soccer match . What's the miles per gallon ?

Speaker 4 18:58

Varies based on driver realistically 40 . 40 . Rock heavy foot uses more gas , but your average minimum is about 25 miles a gallon . If you drive nice and slow around a church , you're looking at closer to 30 , possibly 35 .

Speaker 3 19:16

See , there you go , Beats me out of 19 in my raring truck . Just rejet it . Just put some different jets in there , yeah .

Speaker 1 19:22

Gentlemen , it is an honor and a pleasure to talk to you guys and we want to know more , yep . So it's going to be up to you to stay in touch with us . Keep us posted on what's going on . Greg , you got something new in the garage ? Call us , tell us , let's talk about it . And David , I mean dude , we love this . David , we want to be on board , help us .

Speaker 2 19:47

Yeah , we love this , david , we want to be on board , help us . Yeah , probably the next time I'll be in touch with you guys is before the next session in 2025 . We got a group of legislators that helped us getting this policy reversed at the DMV . They saw it as kind of an overreach and overregulation by the DMV . So we're going to work with those same legislators to try to get a bill to the governor's desk in 2025 . So I'll get on with you guys before our next or maybe the K rally or just before the next session , definitely the rally .

Speaker 1 20:12

Yeah , if you want to drive down to Sugar Land and we can get together for a beer , we'll do that .

Speaker 3 20:16

And we'll all get to back one of those and go to the rally or go to the drive-in . Bring the lawn chairs , yeah .

Speaker 1 20:21

David , greg , great to talk to you guys . Thanks so much for joining us today . Thank you , you bet . Okay , I'm in .

Speaker 3 20:29

Yeah , get Patrick involved in that we talked about going back to the real mini truck . You know the little subcompacts and stuff . That's about as close as you're going to get these days ?

Speaker 1 20:38

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I'm Don Armstrong . We hope you join us next week for another exciting , live , award-winning production of the In Real Time Car Talk show , april 20th , 8 to 11 am , on all of our In Wheel Time Car Talk outlets . That's it for this podcast episode of the In Wheel Time Car Show . I'm Don Armstrong , inviting you to join us for our live show every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am . Central on Facebook , youtube , twitch and our InWheelTimecom website . Podcasts are available on Apple Podcasts , spotify , stitcher , iheart Podcast , podcast Addict TuneIn , pandora and Amazon Music . Keep listening and we'll see you soon .