On the Road with Jerry Guthrie: A Journey through the Auto Industry's Past and Present

Car Talk Show and Corvette Enthusiast

Speaker 1 0:00

Welcome to another in wheel time podcast , the 30 minute mini version of the in wheel time car show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am Central . We're done , okay , we're done with that and we're moving on From the fabulous Hemi hideout in Brookshire , texas . It's the in wheel time car talk show coming up . More guests from the hideout , along with folks from the car clubs attending today's cruise in Conrad has this week in auto history and we'll get you caught up on the stories making car news this week . Howdy , along with Mike out of this world , mars King , conrad along . We always need more , jeff Zekin , don't we Jeffrey ? Yep , we do , we do . I'm Don Armstrong , along with our fabulous chief engineer , david Ainsley . Good to see you thank you for being here .

Speaker 1 0:56

Good , good to be seen , uh-huh . And .

Speaker 2 0:59

Better than being shown to yeah , that's true .

Speaker 1 1:02

That would normally happen at a funeral home with it kind of . Contact John . Thank you .

Speaker 2 1:09

I had to work through it , but you guys .

Speaker 1 1:11

I did have to work through it anyway . Mr Mars has a guest for us .

Speaker 2 1:15

Yes , sir , you know John was talking earlier about these family , the Hemi hideout family and the friends and everybody's contributed to this and be part of the family . And so joining us now is Jerry Guthrie , one of those friends that's been around and it has a maybe a little bit different aspect on the things that go on here and how they've gone on . Jerry , glad you could join us . Well , it's good to be with you .

Speaker 4 1:36

Jerry , how long have you known John , I guess probably 10 years , 10 years so right after the Well , right before the hideout opened . Yeah , it was about the same time it finished , we we got to know John and Diane .

Speaker 1 1:49

So how did that all take place ? How did you get the introduction ?

Speaker 4 1:51

We heard about the Hemi hideout through one of the car clubs and we come out here one day and Called Shelly and made an appointment and John was here and give us a personal tour and we just got to be friends and been friends ever since . Where do you live ? We live now Between Woodlands and Conroe . We was living in Katie at the time but we moved up there about seven years ago . Why ?

Speaker 4 2:16

More trees a few hills , but we like it up there , but we still get down here a lot and spend a lot of time with John , I know , because I know the true answer you just wanted to the challenge of the I-10 Katie freeway out here .

Speaker 1 2:31

Oh , yeah , right dude , you need to have a map . That was that is doesn't even exist .

Speaker 5 2:37

Yeah , he just wants to drive 85 on 99 from Conroe .

Speaker 2 2:40

Maybe you could go out west and kind of come in on the interstate from this way , make a loop out .

Speaker 4 2:44

So yeah , we actually come down the 362 . You don't take the back roads . It's a leisure drive and and takes maybe a few minutes longer .

Speaker 1 2:52

No , are you a car guy ? Yeah , I've got a Corvette 2012 Grand Sport , but nice , not the Mo-Car , but yeah , yeah , but that's okay because I'm a . Corvette guy to okay , have a C5 . Okay , mine's a C6 . I know thank you for rubbing it in , but that's okay . Yeah , is it in the garage ? Do you have it covered up most ?

Speaker 4 3:12

of the time . Yeah , I keep it covered up .

Speaker 1 3:14

But we bring it down here today .

Speaker 4 3:15

No , I didn't , but I do bring it down some yeah , me too , same thing .

Speaker 1 3:20

By the way , while we're here , I Want you to know that I retrieved my Corvette on Thursday . Yes , guess what ? It was the seat the driver's seat and it was a corroded connection Connection under the seat and it looked like it was rusted . Hmm , because of the moisture ? Because , you know , I keep that car under a cover . Unfortunately , I don't have a garage to put it in , so I have it under a cover . Well , you know , most of the time in Houston , texas , it's wet , all the time . Yeah , the humidity . I need to put some Riddick's in that's exactly what I'm gonna do .

Speaker 1 3:57

That's exactly what I'm gonna do . But so we got the seat switch . That that was it . Nope , it wasn't the seat switch , it was the connection underneath that did all of that damage and drained the battery all the time I had to have it on a charger . Yeah what a pain . But have you run any ? Any issues like that , how many miles you have on your car ?

Speaker 4 4:17

I've only got just right at 18,000 , so you're just like mine . Yeah .

Speaker 1 4:23

I bought it at 16 and now it's got 34 . Okay , but I don't drive it very much .

Speaker 4 4:28

Yeah , we just take it on some leisure trips and you know , coming down here once a while , go for a Sunday drive .

Speaker 1 4:33

Well , I've got a suggestion for you . Okay , that you and your spouse Join us on the Road trip . Hot ride to your Texas that comes up in the spring , late March , earlier , early April . Yeah right around , yeah , right around April , and it starts off last weekend in April . As a matter of fact , you're right , it starts off in Victoria , and then I don't know where it's gonna go this year , but it's uh , two , three , two day . Was it a two day or three ?

Speaker 3 5:05

day three three day .

Speaker 1 5:07

Yeah , you leave Friday , friday , saturday , sunday cruise . That sounds fun it's , so these extended and last , last year they had 200 cars . It was 200 cars . You can only imagine what that's like . Yeah , every kind of car made in America and beyond , but it's tons of fun and a lot of people our age .

Speaker 2 5:26

Yeah , a lot of them came down from up north . There were several cars from Michigan . I think there was a couple from Iowa , I mean it's it's it's a very broad Group of people and in the way they do it , they start out in Victoria on Thursday they have an opening deal on Victoria on Thursday night .

Speaker 1 5:42

Then we all head out on Friday morning and Police escort out of town and they were little towns along the way that the whole town would turn out right . The kids actually went by one of the Grade schools there , had all the kids out there Waving , everybody's hogging the horn , lots of fun 200 car parade .

Speaker 2 6:01

Where else you gonna get that ?

Speaker 4 6:02

No , that's cool we did the a Corvette caravan for the Corvette Museum's 20th anniversary and left Houston and did that caravan and , like you said , a lot of people in town had come out and it's all car , people and tons of fun .

Speaker 1 6:16

And you know we have gatherings in the evening and I vaguely remember us having a nice gathering At some hotel there along the way .

Speaker 2 6:26

What are you looking at me for ? They set something up with the driving to have a movie at the driving . It was , and a horrendous thunder storm goes through .

Speaker 1 6:35

We're not gonna go out there . So we stayed at the hotel in the lobby , and I don't know is if they really appreciated us .

Speaker 5 6:42

Uh , cutting it up there in the lobby but we actually was there a little alcohol involved , lots , lots we actually filmed .

Speaker 2 6:49

We did a segment for the show that evening .

Speaker 1 6:52

We're whatever you remember of it . We're keeping it for possibility or blackmail .

Speaker 2 6:55

One of the two ? Yeah , well , uh , yeah , uh .

Speaker 1 6:59

Jeff's lovely wife . Uh , don't show me , don't put me in there . And she walks right in front of the camera and said come sit down over here . Oh no , I'm not going to . And then it became a joke and we had lots of fun with that . It was good , but anyway , I didn't mean to interrupt .

Speaker 4 7:13

No , that's . Uh , that sounds like a great social event . I mean that's just like coming out to the hideout . It's about cars and socializing .

Speaker 1 7:20

That's exactly what he is . Are you a member of a car club ?

Speaker 4 7:23

You know . No , not now , I'm not . Uh , you know , I've . Uh , you know I get the emails from the big tuna up north that has Puts out for all the car shows he's . He's a part of a Corvette club and I was part of west Houston muscle when we lived in katie . Yeah , uh , but uh , you know , we , we go to some of the car shows , mostly the look , but uh , you high-tailed it from katie Northward closer to the penitentiary up in huntsville . You what ?

Speaker 1 7:50

You , you , you , you , you , you .

Speaker 4 7:53

You left katie to move to the oh yeah , yeah , see you're a lot closer to the home . Yeah , closer to home up there .

Speaker 2 7:59

Yeah , I was going to say you could go see dawn sometime when you're up there , but absolutely yeah , I'll pop in and out of there occasionally you just get out on the weekends .

Speaker 1 8:08

Yeah , yeah , visitation . Okay , that's exactly right . Listen , I know that you know bill sites , so I can say these things comfortably to you .

Speaker 5 8:17

Where's bill ? I know he's listed . I'm looking for him too .

Speaker 4 8:19

He was standing right there . There you go , yeah . But yeah , I know , bill , he's standing right there , yeah .

Speaker 1 8:24

Yeah , so I mean he's got a hemi high dot name badge on . Yeah , so that means something . It's kind of like a badge of honor .

Speaker 5 8:32

It is connected . It is connected . Yeah , he's part of the host family that Talks to everybody .

Speaker 1 8:37

So I'm going to take a survey and that is I'm going to ask people like yourself . I asked john , he said sure we could , we could accommodate that to have a permanent Air studio here in the hideout so we could all be inside this studio , kind of like this , but nicer and neater , not this rag tag something that's permanent , may have more permanent here and then .

Speaker 1 9:01

So every time there's an event here that we won't have to spend hours setting all of this up and we could just kind of like be the you know man on the street kind of thing , right , come on in . Yeah , exactly because that way the car show would come to us instead of us having to go there right , that'd work out good on the weekends that you get out of hunt still . That's right , that's right . Yeah , the special , uh conjugal visits .

Speaker 5 9:27

I wasn't gonna say , I don't know about conjugal and she's standing right now .

Speaker 1 9:33

Never mind .

Speaker 5 9:34

You're getting the eye , you're getting the evil .

Speaker 4 9:38

I'm not me up .

Speaker 1 9:40

You'll have to ask her play back the tape later . Becky Becky is over there smiling and she heard it . Yeah , mr Maher's wife is made a rare appearance here on the well , not on the in real-time car show , but she is in the audience .

Speaker 5 9:57

Well , last time she was here , you got married .

Speaker 1 10:04

Don't go there .

Speaker 5 10:08

I said .

Speaker 2 10:09

I said it to John , but it wasn't in public like that . Yeah .

Speaker 1 10:13

I didn't bring it up . I swear I didn't bring it up . Well , at any rate , so did you . You didn't bring the Corvette here , so what did you drive here ?

Speaker 4 10:21

I brought my wife's car . She's here with us today helping as well . I think she's probably over by the refreshments , but anytime John has a big group we try to make it down for that .

Speaker 1 10:31

Yeah , my hand yeah absolutely .

Speaker 4 10:33

Yeah , well , it's fun , yeah , it is fun .

Speaker 1 10:35

We're tired . You're retired , you still I am .

Speaker 4 10:37

No , I'm retired , been retired for 15 years .

Speaker 1 10:40

And what was your line of ?

Speaker 4 10:41

work . I worked in oil and gas here in .

Speaker 1 10:43

Houston yeah , do you even say do you say the company name or no ?

Speaker 4 10:49

Yeah , it's marathon oil marathon marathon oil to . I spent 34 years with them , enjoyed every day of it . It's good .

Speaker 1 10:56

Yeah .

Speaker 4 10:56

Yeah .

Speaker 1 10:57

Well it's , it's great to have you here . So what ? What is your ? What is your Duty today ?

Speaker 4 11:04

I'm helping guide people as they pull in , we welcome them and we give them directions where to go park , and Then they , you know , they bring them up on the golf courts and they golf carts and they come in and look around and try to make them feel at home . That's , that's what it's all about .

Speaker 1 11:20

Yeah , it is , it is . Well , that's good . Listen , we sure appreciate you stopping by and it's good to visit .

Speaker 4 11:27

Yeah it's good to meet you . Yeah , it's nice to meet you guys .

Speaker 1 11:30

Now we know outside of Huntsville where to visit . That's right , right here , Thank you very much Okay . Thank you guys appreciate it , you bet .

Speaker 5 11:40

Conrad Always makes me wonder if people understand what's about to happen to them .

Speaker 1 11:46

I feel sorry for some of them because they I don't think a lot of a lot of them know what we do here yeah which is kind of a scary thing in itself . Do you want to do this week in auto history ?

Speaker 3 11:59

are you ready to do ?

Speaker 1 12:00

that Sure okay . Well , let's do this week in auto history . Conrad always puts this together for

Auto History and Automotive News Highlights

Speaker 1 12:05

us .

Speaker 5 12:05

So this week in 1934 , the automatic transmission was patented by Oscar banker . He filed for a patent for a new type of auto automatic transmission . The automatic transmission wasn't a new idea at the time , but it had hardly been perfected . General Motors and REO had debuted semi-autoc transmissions the same year , but both were found to be quite reliable and to this day GM automatic transmissions are still unreliable . Sorry , it's my editorial .

Speaker 1 12:38

Comments by themselves .

Speaker 5 12:39

Let me put it that even though bankers patent which was used , which used hydraulic force , it had no need for a manual clutch mechanism . So he kind of developed the torque converter idea of fluid multiplying power Inside the automatic transmission like a turbine engine does .

Speaker 5 12:59

So , and you know , you got to remember the original automatic transmissions General Motors offered were first mass produced and they were used in the 1940 Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs of the day . In 1939 , this week , the automotive Hall of Fame was founded . The idea for an automotive Hall of Fame was conceived during a time when the auto industry was still relatively young but rapidly growing . The institution was initially operated in New York City . However , it became established as its permanent home in Michigan , at in the heart of the automotive industry . In 1960 the automotive Hall of Fame relocated to Dearborn , where it resides today in a modern , iconic building . The move highlighted Michigan's central role in the automotive history and development . In 1951 DeSoto fire dome engine began production in For 1952 model year . The DeSoto fire dome was the Hemi engine that DeSoto used . It was called the fire dome .

Speaker 2 14:09

Me there you go , thank you .

Speaker 1 14:11

I might have a DeSoto story you ready , sure so my parents first car after they got married , 1948 , was a 51 , I think , desoto 52 it was green , I got a picture of me on it in the picture when I was a kid .

Speaker 1 14:31

So that had a starter problem and my dad had to teach my mother with a broomstick and a hammer how to hit the starter how to hit the starter out . You open the hood and put the broomstick on it . Hit the hammer on the On the broomstick to get the starter to turn and that's that . That was pretty common . That's my DeSoto story thought I'd share it .

Speaker 5 14:51

I thought you to do it .

Speaker 1 14:53

Well , I was a little bit young and probably couldn't hold a hammer at that time . Oh , if I had a hammer and that hammer in the morning .

Speaker 5 14:59

In 1965 the MGB Goes on sale . If you remember , the MGB was the little hardtop MG , teeny , tiny little car . And then later on the MGB was built from 65 through 73 . And in the later generations the MGB was . They had a GT version of it and the GT version had that 215 cubic inch aluminum V8 . That was originally a Buick engine but it was also sold by Oldsmobile and Pontiac . General Motors had sold all the castings to British Leland back in the mid sixties and then that became kind of the engine of choice at Range Rover for a number of years . But they ran that V8 and that little MGB GT which I thought was quite , quite a hot rod . And then in 1968 , the movie starring Steve McQueen , bullet , debuted . Steve McQueen takes viewers on perhaps the most my opinion the most iconic car chase in movie history .

Speaker 5 16:11

Through the streets of San Francisco . What a great movie Good , intense car chase to watch and the music background was pretty awesome .

Speaker 1 16:20

Wouldn't you love to have been on the crew that filmed that ? Oh my gosh , yes .

Speaker 5 16:24

When they said McQueen did most of the driving .

Speaker 1 16:26

Yes , that's what I understand .

Speaker 5 16:27

And the one part of the movie where he kind of blows a turn and throws it in reverse and gets all that wheel hop and tire smoke in reverse . That was not originally part of the movie but they filmed all of it and thought it was so good they left it in the movie .

Speaker 1 16:43

Yeah , yeah , great movie .

Speaker 5 16:45

And then in 1969 , the first Plymouth Superbird was completed . You can kind of see one of them here . You guys had highlighted the yellow one back there . John had . Workers at Chrysler's Clear Point Pre-production Facility completed the first Plymouth Superbird this week . In 1969 as a 1970 model vehicle , initiating the historic run of iconic NASCAR inspired muscle cars . Superbirds began life as a 1970 Plymouth Road Runner and underwent most of their Superbird-ish look at the Lynch Road Assembly plan Superbird-ish . Well , you know , you got to remember . It started as a Road Runner . Then they put the wing on it and the front nose and stuff on it About five miles away and final assembly , included installing the nose , happened at Clear Point . You know , one of the unique things about Superbirds is every production Superbird had a vinyl top on it .

Speaker 1 17:45

I did not realize that , but that went over . There does yeah .

Speaker 5 17:48

Everyone production had a vinyl top and the reason for that is they couldn't cleanly finish that C pillar roof panel so they figured the easiest way to deal with it was to cover it up with a vinyl top Kind of just a unique fact about super birds . I didn't know that and that's this week in auto history .

Speaker 1 18:05

Are you ?

Speaker 5 18:05

gonna ask Mars .

Speaker 2 18:08

If , david , it's my kind what I was gonna say . But if you go look at the the Dodge equivalent , it does not have a vinyl top on it . They figured out a way to do that , whereas the Plymouth factory just threw the vinyl top on it to cover that .

Speaker 1 18:23

Well . I didn't know that , yep left , we'll have to nail John down and get the story .

Speaker 2 18:30

Yeah , I'm sorry . No , it's the day . Jonas , don't have the vinyl top on it .

Speaker 1 18:34

Huh , well , there you have interesting trivia . There's your one coke for the answer and I'm dying here .

Speaker 5 18:41

That's this week in auto history . That's not just here .

Speaker 1 18:46

All right , in case you're wondering , we're going to have an extra hour of the show on today Because we wanted to be here when the actual event starts at 11 . So we thought well , with the fabulous Thunderbirds . I guess , so we quite the band , but the people so we wanted to be here for at least half of that , because the actual invited event goes from 11 to 1 . It's a cruise in . It's open to the public , but a lot of car clubs are coming for the cruise in if they can make it here .

Speaker 5 19:22

And and John was nice enough to let us . Dwaan and then , you know , we passed on the invitation through our , our social media as well , yeah , so we're kind of hoping some others show up .

Speaker 1 19:35

Yeah , well , I think that they will . All right time now for this hour's headlines from automotive news . Stilontis aims to surpass Ford Motor Company and become the world's largest maker of likey commercial vehicles . The push for more sales to businesses and governments includes a new unit called Stilontis pro one and For electrified pickups in North America over the next two years . In addition to the electric Ram 1500 rev or Rev scheduled to arrive next year , the North American plans include a new Hydrogen solution to come , according to Stilontis . Ram also has shown us dealers a concept version of an electric mid-sized pickup truck . That'll be interesting . Stilontis Pro one will serve as an umbrella for commercial vehicles that will continue to be sold under the company's various brand names Citroen , fiat professional , a Fiat professional , opel , vauxhall , pujo and Ram .

Speaker 5 20:39

I didn't know those common names here in the United States , Right ?

Speaker 1 20:43

well , they're big overseas roll off , for it began running running its commercial division , ford Pro , as a separate business in January . I think they all took the cue from Ram when Ram separated itself from Dodge back in the day . Same kind of thing . I Thought that this was interesting .

Higher Repair Costs for Electric Vehicles

Speaker 1 21:04

Heavy-tech Teslas cost about $1,350 more in collision repairs than combustion vehicles , according to third-quarter data . Rivian and Lucid were higher , but non Tesla EVs cost just $269 more than gas cars . On average , teslas were higher than gasoline cars by 1347 Well , non Tesla EVs were just 269 higher . Part of Tesla's higher collision costs comes from its safety and technology features that are spreading across the industry , Pushing repair bills and insurance premiums higher , especially in the luxury category .

Speaker 5 21:48

Well , if you think about that the electronics that are built into the Teslas and all of the other EVs when they're involved in a collision , it's not just fixing the dented metal and plastic , it's fixing the damaged electrical systems in the vehicle , and and that takes a higher level Body shop and a higher level body shop technician to do that correctly . You know the other thing about Tesla's if there's any damage at all to a battery , you throw it away and you put a new one in it , quite expensive because you can't take the chance of having a meltdown on it later on the liability .

Speaker 5 22:22

Thermal runaway is what you call it .

Speaker 2 22:24

You were talking about the , the issue you were having with your Corvette . Yes , I find that connection .

Speaker 5 22:28

I mean you take it and the whole vehicle think about that with a 600 volt battery .

Speaker 1 22:33

Yeah he went through over a hundred circuits to find out that it was the seat . It's only way to do it .

Speaker 2 22:41

Yeah , just a little bit of damage , though to a Tesla . You could just . You know , that's why there's so many different things . You could damage just a crack or or shift it . You know , shift happens whenever you have a wreck .

Speaker 5 22:54

Well , and , and , again , that comes to the level of body shop technician really has to elevate Over the guy with a hammer and putty Because of the electronics have to be repaired and I'm elevate , elevate , perpetuate Song in that is there , uh-huh .

Speaker 1 23:12

It's a wrap thing . I'm working on it . So is hammer and putty . Us auto safety regulators MC hammer and .

Speaker 5 23:20

Silly putty .

Speaker 1 23:21

US auto safety regulators said zip car has agreed to pay a $150,000 fine after a government investigation found it allowed customers to rent vehicles with uncompleted recalls . Zip car could be forced to pay another hundred and fifty K If it does not comply with the terms of the settlement with NHTSA . National Highway Traffic Safety Administration . Following a more than five year Investigation , agency is requiring zip car to submit an audit report of all zip car vehicles with uncompleted recall repairs . Avis budget group Completed its acquisition of zip car in May just in time for the next .

Speaker 5 24:02

Yeah , so I have . Don's wrap handle , bust a hip .

Speaker 1 24:10

That's not funny , david , it's just not funny , oh my god , that was great .

Speaker 1 24:16

Ford Motor Company executive chair bill Ford implored UAW leaders last week to end their month-long strike before it further hurts the economy and cripples the automakers ability to compete against the likes of Tesla in Toyota . Ford , speaking from the company's historic Rouge complex in Dearborn , michigan , said the industry was at a crossroads during this round of contract negotiations . Choosing the right path is not just about Ford's future and our ability to compete . He said this is about the future of the American automobile industry . Toyota , honda , tesla and others are loving this strike Because they know the longer it goes on the better it is for them . They will win and all of us will lose . They strike against the Detroit three began September 15th with three assembly plants and has since expanded to about 34,000 workers at 44 facilities across the United States of America .

Speaker 5 25:11

From Ford , a company that named their plant after the river . They polluted the Rouge River .

Speaker 2 25:19

No back back it was Rouge before it was polluted .

Speaker 5 25:22

No , it was red red river yeah .

Speaker 1 25:27

It was red before it got polluted sort of like a little tinge .

Speaker 5 25:30

I thought it was polluted . Well , there's a lot of or . There's a lot of or or in .

Speaker 2 25:34

That's what turns the water .

Speaker 1 25:37

Okay , I Think that I've had enough of these headlines . Right now You've got to see block a block for a Commercial break coming up .

Speaker 3 25:49

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Speaker 1 25:50

Well , thank you for that , and I'm gonna get to that as soon as I can get all of my , what it's ? What makes you ? You got the right block , okay well .

Speaker 5 26:01

He's trying to get all his paper to go . I know I .

Speaker 1 26:03

I've got a lot going on . You do so . You just gonna have to bear with sure , which you typically don't do . I know you're not good at that .

Speaker 4 26:12

Nope .

Speaker 1 26:14

Jeff wants it . He wants it now , yep , and does not want to wait around . Nope , so get the last word in to yes , you are as you always do . Yep time now for a quick break . We'll be right back . You're on the in wheel time car talk show on I heart radio .

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Speaker 1 28:38

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