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Welcome to another In Wheel Time Podcast.
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Welcome to the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
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Just ahead.
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We talk gas credit cards with Chip Lupo at Wallet Hub.
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Boy, have I got some things to tell him.
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In Jeff's Car Culture 5 tool brands that mechanics buy over Snap On.
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Yeah.
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And Mars has seven hot rod events to plan for in his driving destinations feature.
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Howdy along with Mike out of this world, Mars.
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We always need more Jeff Zeken.
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Chief Engineer David Ainsley sleeping in today.
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Getting ready for next week.
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I'm Don Armstrong.
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Glad you could join us today.
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And uh do we have Chip with us?
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Yes, sir.
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Okay.
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Well, let's just get right to it, shall we?
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Chip Lupo, wallet hub, gas credit cards, and the best ones to combat high prices.
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Well, Chip, it's good to see you, and we thank you very much for joining us today.
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How you been?
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Good guys.
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Hope you guys are doing well.
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Well, we are.
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We are doing just fine.
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Thank you for asking.
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So it's been several years, probably five years ago.
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I thought, you know, I haven't had a gas company credit card in forever.
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And I always used to have a gas credit card.
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I don't even think that they took Visa and MasterCard back in the day.
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You had to have a gas credit card.
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I always had a Chevron card, always bought my gas at Chevron, all that.
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So for whatever reason, that credit card went away.
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And um I've been without one for a long time.
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I thought, you know, I'm going to check the gas credit card.
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Oh my God.
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I thought that, you know, 20% interest rate on the credit card was a lot.
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Oh no.
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The gas company credit cards were like 36, 40% interest rate on the gas credit card.
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I thought, why would I buy one of those?
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So I know that you've got some insight for me.
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Do you?
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Yeah, we just lost him.
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Well, that's great.
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Well, I'll let you I'll let you repeat that question to uh Mr.
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Lupo when he comes back.
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How's that, Morris?
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All right.
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Can you remember that question?
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Yeah.
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What the hell?
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Okay, well, I'm gonna let you do that for you.
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Okay.
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You just you just continue doing whatever it is that you're just trying to get back in here.
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So uh I don't understand our connections.
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There he is.
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There you go, Mike.
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I think it was on Mr.
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Lupo's end.
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I'm back, guys.
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There he is.
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Are you back?
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There he is.
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He was.
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Or at least I thought I was.
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Okay, well, I'm gonna let you take it over from the I can hear you guys.
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You can hear us?
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I can hear you guys.
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I can hear you, but we don't know what the what the video problem is.
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So the question is why do I get a gas credit card to begin with?
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Well, it's interesting because you your choices are the gas credit card from which you were referring to a second ago, or you can just uh or you can have a general rewards card that would give you rewards for gas and other purchases.
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You would want a gas credit card if you are new to credit, if you're looking to rebuild credit, and if you are someone who pays your bill in full every month.
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Because as you mentioned, as you mentioned, I mean I just gonna I'm just gonna say that I mean if you pay it in full every month, then this is not a problem.
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Right.
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But I'm almost like, why would you have that?
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Why wouldn't you just go get cash and you know, uh, here's my uh forty dollars for a tank of gas this week and just pay cash for it instead of having a credit card, other than you're trying to rebuild your credit.
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Right.
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Now, um in some cases the gas card will work if it's one that you frequent.
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If there is a particular brand that you always go to, whether it's Shell or BP or some local chain, then that's a good idea because you do get significant discounts.
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Usually the first time you use it, you they'll give you an offer where you can get up to 30 cents per down on your first bill up, and then usually it's like 10 cents.
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But again, you you have to pay that and regardless of what credit card you use, you have to pay it off in full because the because of the interest, and that would also cancel out any rewards that you earn.
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So it's would be kind of pointless to even use it if you're not going to pay it in full every month.
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Well, the incentive is to pay it off with a high interest rate like that.
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That would be well, but you know, so Chip, my my question would be I I understand what you're saying exactly, and that's what I try and do as well.
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But instead of having a credit card that may have a 30% interest rate on it, why not have one that's got less just in case I go over or I have an emergency or something and I can't pay it off?
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Uh and and the idea of using cash instead trying to do that, because a lot of places don't want you to use the credit card because of the credit card charges.
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I don't leave tips on the credit card if I can avoid it, but I but there's a problem, I gotta go to the bank to get cash.
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And then I gotta go do whatever I'm gonna do.
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Right, and you must barn bars.
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He's rich.
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One, I got one.
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You brought up a good point there about the um about the surcharges because some some gas stations will charge you a higher price for credit card purchases.
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So if you're using a a gas card, basically you're gonna recoup at least part of the of the processing fees.
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You're not gonna get the full reward, so always keep that in mind.
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And yeah, cash is always the preferable option.
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And either one of those, which is key here, is preferable than using a debit card.
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You want to avoid using debit cards at the pump because they're more susceptible to fraud.
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They don't have the protections that credit cards offer for fraudulent purchases.
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So all uh with either cash or credit card, avoid using debit cards at all costs at gas pumps because they're easily those card readers are easily easily manipulated to retrieve key information off of your credit card and off the debit card, and traditional credit regular credit cards offer you much more fraud protections.
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Well, I'm not a big fan of debit cards either, but I went to fill the truck up the other day and it was eighty-eight dollars.
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And I don't generally carry a hundred dollars cash with me all the time.
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But if you know, if you know, then it's pretty easy to go to your bank's ATM, uh, wherever that may be around you and get the cash and go pay cash for the gas.
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I mean, um every once in a while I will pay cash for gas.
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Like I got a$20 bill.
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And there's a gas station along the way, some no name, you know, fly by night thing.
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But I don't care that the gas burns in the car, it doesn't know the difference.
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And so I I'll buy that and I get the whole ten cents per gallon uh extra uh taken off of my bill.
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Right.
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And but the same principle on my end, I use the Kroger card because you get pennies off or cents off.
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Right, the fuel point.
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And that's and that's a good way to just get out of your money.
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Yeah, I got five cents off the the gallon.
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And you know, I I don't know where the misnomer comes in about gasoline.
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Oh, well, you know, that that no-name gas station at the end of the of the street.
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Oh, I would never buy gas there.
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Why not?
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Well, because it's not a shell or a conico and a gas station.
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Guess what?
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The gasoline that are that is at those stations?
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Those are the same, it's the same gasoline.
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I asked a guy.
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He was he just dumped a whole load of gasoline into the tanks over there at what the no-name gas station.
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I said, So what brand is that?
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Oh, I can't tell you.
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I said, Come on, man.
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What do you mean you can't tell me?
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Okay, it's Conoco.
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That's what he that's that's what he said.
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That's they're in the business to make and sell gasoline.
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It doesn't make any difference what station it is.
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If it's a conaco station, they're gonna charge you more because now you've got the brand name.
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You've got the brand name.
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It's like, why would why would you buy peanut butter from Walmart as opposed to another brand?
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In a lot of cases, some of these major, some of these major chains are the ones that are providing these store brands with those um products.
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Yeah, it's it's it's a product like Michelin tires.
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They make they make uh OEM tires and then they make tires for the general public in aftermarket.
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So it's just a name, just like you said.
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Yeah.
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And once in a while you used to, you could hear about somebody having bad gas.
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They got water in the tank.
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And and so people done that this morning.
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Yeah.
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But but nowadays with social media, if somebody gets a tank of bad gas, I mean it don't take long words out.
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Don't go buy any gas there until they get it changed out.
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So that's not really too much of an issue anymore.
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Yeah, you never you you rarely hear of some like the bad gas anymore.
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Just don't don't pump the gas that the the tanker is there filling up the huge underground tank because it stirs up all the crap in the tank and you're just pumping it right into your car.
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Exactly.
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Granted, it's got a filter in place, but you know, many times you don't want that.
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But why would you have uh debris in the tank in the ground?
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Well, I mean over the colour.
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Most of it's moisture, I think.
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It's inevitable because they open up the tank.
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I'm sorry, Chip, we've got this discussion going on.
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Don't mind us.
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Yeah, they're pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
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So they open up the lid and the wind's blowing, and okay, a leaf drops down in there.
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You there's only so much that you can do.
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So whatever the case may be.
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But uh Chip, back to back to you know, the credit card thing with uh buying gasoline in particular.
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You know, the last time I looked at gasoline credit cards, there is all of this fine print to get you know whatever credit card it is.
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And not only that, but I think it's a point to say is that if you apply for a credit card, it's gonna take a hit on your credit report for getting that credit card for a short period of time, but you are gonna take a hit.
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Oh, exactly.
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Now, if you're just gonna apply for one like maybe once a year every six months, that uh it'll will ding your credit report because the lender does have to pull a copy of your credit report.
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That's known as a hard pull or hard inquiry, and it'll it'll ding your credit report by a couple of points, but those will go away within a couple of months as long as you're maintaining you know a good credit history.
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Right.
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What you don't want to do is apply for a a gas rewards card and a gas credit card at the same time or within a day or two of each other.
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Right.
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Because that sends a red flag to the lenders that okay, this guy's gonna be loading up on credit.
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Let's get ready for a wave of irresponsible spending here, just raises a red flag, and those and those inquiries, those add up, and that could that could cause considerable damage to your credit score.
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So, what how how do you decide which credit card you are going to apply for?
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A gasoline credit card.
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How do you make that decision?
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Well, Fortnite Wallet Hub, we have tools available to help consumers make those types of decisions.
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We you have we have all kinds of filters that you can tailor to your needs.
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But when it comes to gas credit cards, if you're going for a gas rewards card, your best bet is to find one that does not charge you an annual fee.
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Most reward cards will charge you an annual fee, usually$95.
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Are you kidding me?
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I'm not paying an annual fee for anything.
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It's like the American Express card, and they charge you whatever it is today,$500 a year?
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No.
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Are you kidding?
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Well, that's the thing.
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You have if you're going to go that way, you have to ask yourself, um, am I going to spend and now in a lot of cases, if you're a frequent traveler or if you're a frequent whatever, if you're hotels or whatever, if you used it enough, in a lot of cases they'll pay for themselves, but you have to ask yourself that up front.
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Am I going to use this card enough this year and every year?
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Because those cards are renewable.
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Those annual fees tack on every single year.
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Are you going to use that card enough for it to pay for itself for that annual fee?
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Now, some folks, like yourself, myself included, why why even bother?
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Why bother?
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Why pay someone just for the privilege of using a credit card?
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Their credit card that they're going to charge you interest on if you don't pay it off every month.
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Well, that too.
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Now you can also, there are credit cards out there that'll give you an introductory 0% APR from anywhere from six months to 18, 21 months, depending on the card.
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Now you can use those to um for major purchases or just for holiday spending or whatever, and then pay that off over time at 0% interest.
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The trick is though, once that introductory rate expires, if there's a balance on there, then that's going to then the regular interest rate.
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Now for a regular credit card, that's going to be somewhere about 22 to 23% if you have good credit.
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A store card or a gas card, upwards of 30% interest.
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Chip.
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Yes, sir.
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I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you how old I am by by making this statement, okay?
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My dad taught me that if you want something, save for it.
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My God, what a novel idea.
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Oh, your dad, your dad and my dad must have been taking they've been sharing notes.
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Exactly.
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Because I don't know.
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Because money doesn't grow money doesn't grow on trees.
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Right.
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Well, there's that too.
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Yes.
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But you know, if you wanted something, you save for it.
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You know where I learned in in reality that method?
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I got 50 cents a week allowance.
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A week.
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50 cents.
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And I would take the 50 cents to the toy store and I'd put a toy in the layaway.
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I still have those trucks as rusty and as old as a lot of people.
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But I will tell you, it taught me that if you really want something that bad, pay for it.
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And I I knew somebody else that that bought a brand new 69 Malibu.
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She saved her money for the car and paid cash for it.
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She got 50 cents a week.
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Yeah.
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Hopefully she got a lot of time.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Or the alternative is go to your local auto parts store and buy a siphon.
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A stiphon.
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With with a hand crank on it so you can get the gas.
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But pay cash for the siphon.
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Pay cash for the siphon.
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That's right.
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Don't don't leave a footprint back there to find to come find you, okay?
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All right.
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So I assume that Wallet Hub has the info that we need to be able to make an informed decision of what kind of credit card we really want to stick our neck out in and put it in our wallet to have in there to go, ah, I got one of those credit cards.
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I'm going to use it today to buy gas with.
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Oh, absolutely.
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All we have all the tools available to help you make those decisions.
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And another thing also about rewards cards, and again, always opt for one with no annual fee, is that you can earn an initial bonus, like a first-time, like a spending bone, like a sign-up bonus, if you spend X amount of dollars in the first six months.
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For example, one of one of the best crop rewards cards for gas that we that we found is called the City Custom Cash Card because it will give you 5% cash back in your top spending category, up to$500 for billing cycle.