Classic Cars vs. California Wildfires: Challenges and Surprises in the Automotive World

What happens when classic car collections meet California's fierce wildfires, and how do electric vehicles complicate the aftermath? Get ready to explore these critical issues alongside our lively discussions on the "Siberian Big Blow" in our latest episode of the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show. We delve into the challenges faced by classic car collectors in fire-ravaged areas like Malibu and the unique hazards posed by burnt lithium-ion batteries during cleanups. With experts like Jay Leno potentially contributing insights, we unpack the impact of these devastating events on the automotive world, providing a fascinating blend of urgency and expertise.
Shift gears with us as we have some fun guessing auction prices for vintage rides, including the iconic 1970 Ford Torino Cobra and the charming 1954 Chevrolet Bel Air. Whether you're into nostalgia or the latest in automotive technology, we've got you covered with reviews of upcoming 2025 and 2024 models tailored for senior drivers. Discover why platforms like Amazon and Costco may soon transform how you buy your next car, and hear the latest on Vroom's financial shake-up. From laughter-inducing tales of restoring a Nash Rambler to serious market trend analysis, we promise a ride full of insights and humor for every car enthusiast.
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California Fires
Speaker 1Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast . We're building the igloo and preparing for the .
Speaker 1Siberian Big Blow but we're doing it here . On the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show . We got recalls and Hemmings sold cars round up , going to have a special feature here , coming up in just a second on the fires out in California Later . Jeff has the six best cars for older drivers Golden years . I resemble that , along with Mr Marr's review of the GMC Hummer EV Howdy along with . We Always Need More Jeff Zekin and Mike out of this world Marr's . I'm Don Armstrong , glad that you could join us this morning . David Ainsley sleeping in . Of course he's preparing for the Houston Auto Show and he'll join us there . He needs his rest . He does need his rest . He's complaining to me about oh man , I've been working long hours out there . I've been putting in this transmitter for a radio station . It's been really tough .
Speaker 1He has manicures been really tough . He has manicures . He doesn't get his hands dirty . Well , I I didn't notice the manicure , but I know that you did . Um , all right , um , I wanted to talk about .
Speaker 1This is a story , mr mars . Mr mars and I talked all week . We were trying to find a car club out there in the la area that could address . But now we know that all of these people have lost thousands of homes . Loss of life is continuing to climb , with over two dozen now dead because of the fires . The views that we see on television just horrific . Can't even imagine . All of that gone . Pacific Palisades , a beautiful area , all of these different neighborhoods gone because of these fires . But so we started thinking , because we are a car show , we started thinking okay , well , in that debris that you know , there are people out there , especially in Malibu , that got burnt off the map , that they have some nice collector cars . What's happened to those cars ? Do they have insurance ? Is the car gone ? Did they store it ? Those cars Do they have insurance ? Is the car gone ? Did they store it somewhere else ?
Speaker 3Did they move it ? Did they store it ?
Speaker 1Yeah , we don't know . We're going to talk to actually try to get a hold of Jay Leno , but everybody's so busy out there it's really difficult yeah .
Speaker 4Yeah , and there's one . Jack Nereid put me on to a small regional museum out there that a lot of the car clubs use . He's been out to events down there at it . They're open on the weekends only and they're south of the fire , south of Jack actually , but I haven't got a hold of them yet . But I'm thinking that maybe in a couple of weeks , if we can schedule them in , they'll have a little bit better idea of some of the stories .
Speaker 3Well , on their timeline too because they're still .
Speaker 4You know . Well , that's it . I mean you can see some of the news shows . You know there's a mustang over there , that's just a burnt hulk . Yeah , and , and I saw a deal , they were talking about a camaro that was parked on the side of the street for some reason it the fire burned around it , you know it .
Speaker 1Just all kinds of stories yeah , well , I I think back on um , and I don't remember who it was . Greg Enders had a shop that he was using and I went to visit him at the shop and in there was a beautiful 69 Camaro Z28 , which is my holy grail of a car , you know that and it's had the original original um dz motor in it . Everything was all original and , uh , it got caught up in the harvey floods and it was completely totaled . And they were . They had bought it with the salvage title , bought it back with the salvage title and they were going to fix it all up . They were in the process of taking off the vinyl roof on it , had a lot of options on it , they were going to restore it back to the way it originally was . But because it's got a salvaged title now , it's lost all of this value because it was all original Z28 . And think of this the car that we're talking about in California burnt up .
Speaker 1Most of those cars , if they're burnt up up , there's no way to restore any part of that because the fire absolutely warps every piece of sheet metal on it everything is gone , everything and um , I I can't even imagine , you know , that may be something that we could look at next week and talk to hagerty or that other car collector , car collector insurer and find out what they know and see how . Maybe it's just a different angle of the story .
Speaker 3I don't know . Is it Davida that we have on ?
Speaker 4Divya yeah , it should be on next week , Divya yeah , yeah , good .
Speaker 1So anyway , here's another follow-up to that . A debris removal following the deadly fires in SoCal will be made more complicated by the area's plentiful electric vehicle batteries and other lithium-ion cells . According to Governor Gavin Newsom , it's a little different world now today with batteries not just car batteries but battery packs , people with solar , those Tesla wall batteries and the like solar , those Tesla wall batteries and the like he said during an interview with CNN . Of course it was a CNN . The hazmat side of it made it a little bit more complicated . He says we're going to work through it . As of May , california claimed 34% of all new zero emission vehicle sales in the US . According to the California Air Resources Board , the prevalence of EVs in the state poses a challenge for first responders and others removing the rubble . While fires and combustion engines vehicles are much more common , evs have unique qualities that make their fires difficult to extinguish for one . And then what do you do with them after they've burned ?
Speaker 3up . Yeah , and that was a question we talked about a couple weeks ago when this was going on that the batteries are a hazmat situation . If you have a Tesla or an electric car on fire , the fire department has to handle that different than , say , a structure fire or another , Well , other risks include chemical burns from hydrofluoric acid and internal ones from inhalation of hydrogen fluoride .
Speaker 1So that's a whole other thing that I mean we could talk to a fire department person that has knowledge in that . But I just thought I'd mention that because clearly that is a huge , huge story that they're all dealing with out there and we're also feeling the pain because we know what kind of pain those kind of disasters can have , especially after the floods and hurricanes that we have around these parts .
Classic Car Auction Price Guessing
Speaker 1We do have one recall to tell you about Nissan . Just one , just one this week . Wow , I know , I don't know what happened . Well , I guess , because everybody's preparing for Trump's inauguration on Monday , they said ah , never mind , we're good , here's one . Nissan Kicks for 2025 , unexpected vehicle movement . What Unexpected vehicle movement . You've had that with your bowels before . I've had that . Yes , I have , but this happens to be the Nissan Kicks for 2025 . You get your kicks on Route 66 . There you go , or I think that there was a dave clark five song called kicks . Yeah , yeah , yeah , you forgot about that paul revere .
Speaker 1That was way before my time I know it was it's way before everybody's time , but just my answer to that is never mind hogwash , yeah , all right . So we , we have this little thing that we do . By the way , those stories that we presented were courtesy of Automotive News , and this particular segment is from Hemmings , hemmingscom , and this is Hemmings' Sold Car Weekly Roundup , and we play this little game for the boys to play and you get home it gives you an insight into their knowledge of automobile . Dumb boy . We're going to start off with one that , uh , is common to us older folks a 1970 ford torino cobra . 1970 ford torobra . Talk to me , okay , I know . And it's petty blue and it's got the black hood with the scoop on the front of it . It looks stock . There's white leather tires on it . It looks good . What kind of wheels ? Factory wheels , factory wheels . Oh boy , yeah , I know . So a 1970 Ford Torino Cobra . How much do you think that that sold for with ?
Speaker 4this online auction thing , $79,000 what comes to mind ? $79,000 , okay $79,000? .
Speaker 3Really , jeff , I'm going to go $32,000 .
Speaker 1Okay , well , somewhere in the middle is where it sold $47,250 .
Speaker 3Let me see it . Let me see it . I'm going to let you see it . All right , and the next one . No , there , it is right there . Oh yeah , that's gorgeous .
Speaker 1It is Kind of like Petty Blue . I don't remember Ford had its own name for it , but it was that kind of mid-level blue . Cool , okay , here's one for Grandpa . Okay , we're all , grandpa , I'll let you have this car . It's even got the big sunshade over the front window . 1954 Chevrolet Bel Air two-door hardtop with a I don't know mid-level green and a white top . It looks completely stock and it looks like it's been restored or very well kept . Let me put it that way A 54 Chevy Bel Air . So I'm thinking a 235 blue flame , six cylinder with a three speed on the column . That's what I'm thinking now . I don't know , I didn't delve that deeply into it , but that kind of has that thing to it . You know , it just kind of screams 31 , 31 for jeff . 54 chevy bel air . Come on , I saw what I would say . I saw one of them that was like 19 , 19 , well , mars , 51 for Jeff 54 , chevy Bel Air . Come on , I saw one I saw one of them , I'm going to say 19 .
Speaker 419 . Well , mars 18 , 480 . Oh , look at you big boy For the 54 , it's just not that popular . Correct , there it is , you tell them . Heitzman said 21 , so he doesn't even count . Then he's not even close .
Speaker 3He's playing along , so we're gonna stay , thank you jeffrey , we're gonna stay in the same vein .
Speaker 11954 okay , I remember it well , not 54 . You were in college back then . Yeah , this now , this does not have the wood paneling on it , but it's a 54 .
Speaker 3Chevrolet 210 which is a which is a station wagon .
Speaker 1Four four-door station wagon . I'll let you see it . Okay , right there , that's gorgeous .
Speaker 3It is , but it's green .
Speaker 1Yeah , it's okay , it's like you know forest green .
Speaker 4Yeah , it's a two-tone green ? I think . No , it's not a two-tone .
Speaker 1It's a light , it's just a light tone , it's just kind of a mediocre green , wide whites on it . It looks completely stock and it's in a warehouse so somebody's taking care of it . $25,000 .
Speaker 4$100,000 or $1,000,000 ?
Speaker 1$1,000,000 . $25,000 . What do you say ?
Speaker 4No , I'm going to stay down . Heitzman says $16,000 . I'm going to stay . Still around that $18,000 .
Speaker 1I'm going to say $ that 18 night , I'm gonna say 19 , 17 732 . So 1954 is a great year . See , if you're gonna , if you're gonna have one of these , you would want the manual transmission because it gives you an extra gear that you didn't have with the automatic , because you only had two speeds . Slush-o-matic no just pro mod it , no , no no , no , no , no .
Speaker 4I had my uncle in Oklahoma . He buys and sells some cars and stuff . He had a Rambler , two-door station wagon , rambler . I don't remember what year it was .
Speaker 1A Nash Rambler ?
Speaker 4Yeah , he was looking for somebody to restore it , because there was so much of it there and I thought , man , this would make a great tubbit and all that stuff . He said , no , you can't have it tub it and all that stuff . He said no , you can't have it . He said there's too much there that can be restored .
Speaker 1Somebody restore it . But you know , on the other hand too , you're either one of those kind of guys that's going to restore something like that or go . You know , I don't know if I want to restore it , I want to make it a driver . Right , you restore it and you put all this money in the restoration . Now it becomes a trailer queen for the most part .
Speaker 3No , you won't go to that extreme . That right there . I'd keep the stock wheels , update the tires , obviously to a new rubber , keep the same configuration with the wide whites , put a new transmission , put an LS in it , make the air cold inside . That's what I would do to it , kind of like Woody's Pontiac yeah . Yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , you update it . Make it a resto , mod Resto mod .
Speaker 4There you go , right , put a .
Speaker 1V8 under the hood with a modern transmission Keep the color Air conditioning .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Leave the interior stock if that's what you want to do .
Speaker 3And whatever patina's on it , yeah .
Speaker 1I'm . That would be the cheap way to go and you could drive it .
Speaker 3And that makes it 25 , so I win .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3It makes it a lot more than 25 .
Speaker 1Okay , here we go . A 2016 Dodge Challenger . Now this car is basically 10 years old . Yeah , a 2016 Dodge Challenger . This looks like it's a Hellcat . Probably a Hellcat , because it's got great big , huge red brake calipers on it .
Speaker 4Yeah , but it could be an RT .
Speaker 1Well , I don't know all of that , okay , yeah , well , it makes about probably a $40,000 difference .
Speaker 4Okay , let's go with . I'll go with 28 , on the premise that it's not a Hellcat .
Speaker 3I went 18 .
Speaker 1Well , both of you are wrong , but actually you kind of hinted at it because this one was $44,100 . So you took one of your first intuitions . Your first thought was that Okay , here's one that I would love love , love to have . Here's a 1932 Ford . Obviously you know it's a hot rod . Right it looks good . No fenders on it , it's black , I assume Channeled coupe or roadster . It's channeled and it looks like it's chopped too . Ooh , chopped and channeled 32 Ford Black on black .
Speaker 3I'm going to go a dollar per year , $32,000 .
Speaker 4Is the engine hanging ?
Speaker 1out of the hood . It's not hanging out , but it's got the top of the hood on it , but the sides are rising .
Speaker 4It's got headers on it , so it's not some big 454 blown up . No , no , no . What we see ?
Speaker 3at the garage . The guys that bring out the garage at Lupe , remember they bring out their 32s .
Speaker 4Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah . That's kind of what I'm thinking . I would go . If it's a California car , I'd say 44 .
Speaker 1I went 32 . 39 , none , split it , yep .
Speaker 4So you guys were close . I said 29 . Candice says that you can just buy whichever one you want don just pick one .
Speaker 1Yeah , no , go for the cobra . Good , jeff , this is yours , buddy , all right , here's a 1954 hudson hornet convertible red with a black top and wide whites . Oh , that's not factory , that , no , it's not factory . I want you to , I want you to see it there it is right there , it is .
Speaker 4It's not factory . No , it's not convertible now .
Speaker 1Well , they may have made a convertible , but it wasn't in that color combination , okay it was .
Speaker 4The red is what I'm talking about , and this even has wire wheels .
Speaker 1It looks like wire cadillac wheels so it's just been updated .
Speaker 3yeah , yeah , it's a Restomod , it could be a . Restomod .
Speaker 1It could be . So what do you think something like that was ? And I will tell you , based on the price that I'm looking at here , that it sold at , it's got to be a Restomod 41 .
Speaker 341 . Mars .
Speaker 1Heitzman says 18 . I'm going to bring it up to date now . Let's move up into the 90s , all right it looks like a Morgan . The 1990s , 91 Mercedes-Benz 300 CE . It's a two-door hardtop .
Speaker 4Are you listening to me ? Yes , I am .
Speaker 1I'm trying to visualize it 91 Mercedes here , I'll show it to you .
Speaker 3Has it been recalled ?
Speaker 4All of them have been recalled . Found to have been recalled in that old Mercedes 300 .
Speaker 3300 CE . I'm going to go 18 . 18 .
Speaker 4I was thinking more like 14 .
Speaker 3Go 14 , then Well , this is for you both $4,101 .
Speaker 1I go $14,000 then . Well , this is for you both $4,101 .
Speaker 3I was going to buy more than one .
Speaker 4It hasn't been recalled . It hasn't had any of the recalls .
Speaker 3Nothing's been done to it . I was going to buy five of them , were you ?
Speaker 1Yeah , well , I think it barely starts , one for all the kids and everything All right . The In Wheel Time Car Talk Show is available 24-7 on the In Wheel Time and Odyssey radio apps . Just search for In Wheel Time Car Talk Podcasts from your favorite podcast provider , including SiriusXM . We also video stream our weekly show on Facebook , youtube and InWheelTimecom . 10 to noon Central Time every Saturday . The In Wheel Time Car Talk Show will continue right after this .
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Car Reviews and Market Trends
Speaker 3. So the first one we have here , michael , is a 2025 Mazda CX-5 . Now , senior drivers seeking for a blend of comfort and class find the CX-5 a delight . Its compact frame follows the effortlessly maneuverability , while its smooth ride cushions well over bumps . Now this car lists at 28,570 , and it scores 9.3 out of 10 . For seniors , that's not bad . The next one is a 25 Honda Accord . With the family lifetime of the road , this car's been around a while . Sedan does offer nearly everything you would want in it . Of course , it is a Honda . It accelerates briskly , corners and the poise around those corners is a gentle ride . This car is $28,295 , and it also scores a 9.3 out of 10 .
Speaker 3Here we have one . I think Don's driving one , or Don is driving a Buick this week that I know it's a 2025 Buick Encore GX . That's yours , isn't it ? No , I've got the Envision . This is for savvy seniors , of course . Anybody that owns a Buick is pretty savvy in my book , looking for a compact car , yet capable SUV . Appreciate the Buick Encore GX . It's practical . It's got an approachable design . Despite its small footprint , this crossover is surprisingly spacious in the cabin . This car is $25,940 , and it scores an 8.6 out of 10 for seniors to buy it and be well worth it .
Speaker 3The next one we have . This one's actually a 2024 . It's a Maverick Ford . Maverick Drivers in search of a compact truck with a clever twist will find Ford Maverick the standout choice . Blurring the lines between a pickup and a small SUV , it provides a mix . The mix is a utility , predictable handling and you can run errands and light duty tasks . This one is $23,900 and it scores a 9 out of 10 .
Speaker 3For those Maverick folks and we have one here it's a 2025 Toyota Camry . Toyota's been around for a long time , so has the Camry . Efficiency , reliability and comfort have made Toyota Camry a perennial favorite for drivers . It gets a powertrain overhaul for 25 that year there , with all models now featuring a hybrid powertrain , it is 28.4 and it scores a 9.5 out of 10 for seniors . The last one we have here is a 2025 Honda Civic . Again , longevity . The Honda Civic is efficient , it's easy to maneuver , it's got a striking ideal balance between practicality and style , responsive handling and an enjoyable ride . This one is 24.250 . It scores a 9.2 out of 10 . And , of course , we have the illustrious bonus shot there , the bonus shot . Bonus shot . That would be the Jeff Zekin bonus shot . From now on , I'm putting a bonus shot in , by the way who played the character Maverick in the television series .
Speaker 3Oh , that was James .
Speaker 1Garner ? Yeah , james Garner , he was the famous guy who did it , maverick in the television series .
Speaker 4Oh , that was James Garner .
Speaker 1He was the famous guy who did it , maverick . Well , you're talking about Mavericks . I thought that's the only Maverick that I ever knew , other than I think Ford had another Maverick . Those were cool ?
Speaker 3Yeah , they were cool . They had a Maverick GT , I believe as well .
Speaker 1So yeah , Mavericks , it was kind of like a bump up from the Pinto . Yeah , I would go with that yeah , a little bit bigger .
Speaker 4It was a lot easier to stuff a V8 in it , though , that was for sure .
Speaker 1Yeah , you had room to do that . Yeah , but it had no horsepower .
Speaker 4Well , it depends on what you put in it .
Speaker 1No , no , not in the aftermarket when it was new , the aftermarket when it was new , oh yeah , no , no , no , yeah , yeah I think it only came with a six , didn't it ?
Speaker 3I believe , yeah , it had no straight six maybe , yeah , straight six .
Speaker 1Yeah , they didn't have these back then . No , no , no . Well , they had them , but they didn't put them in american cars . Yeah , then they decided we're going to change the length of the hood , make it a little bit shorter , so we need a motor that doesn't take up linear thing going on and then you move into the transverse .
Speaker 3Yeah , the trannies , the transfer , yep , yeah , it was well . Yeah , well , you know , transverse tranny , tip or dad , either way he's not gonna give up on that .
Speaker 1No , I know there am I , tata motors vroom remember vroom , oh yeah , which shut down in no time the former used vehicle retailer that shut down its e-commerce sales and shifted focus to auto financing last year , said it has completed Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings . Vroom of Houston , texas , finalized its capital restructuring without any long-term debt , the company said in a January 14th news release . United Auto Credit Corporation , one of its subsidiaries , will remain obligated to debt related to asset-backed securitizations and their trust-preferred securities . Who comes up with these words ? Vroom's $290 million of unsecured convertible senior notes due in 2026 were converted into equity as part of its restructuring support agreement with creditors . The company indicated that it plans to attempt to relist on a nationally recognized stock exchange . Its shares previously traded on the NASDAQ under the ticker symbol VRM .
Speaker 4So if you're not on the NASDAQ , are you going to Japan ?
Speaker 1No , you're going to go to jail is where you're going to go . That's where you're going , and it brought up to my attention . Wait a minute , amazon is selling cars now too . Oh , yeah , they're selling everything . Yeah , they're selling cars , and I believe is it Sam's Club or is it Costco Costco , costco're selling cars . Um , and I believe is it sam's club or is it costco , costco selling cars . Everybody's getting into the car sales .
Speaker 3I was in a low is not far from here , in sugarland , as a matter of fact , and they're selling , uh , these big gator , uh like a golf cart tv . Yeah , gator atvs , they got them all lined up .
Speaker 4They're like nine thousand dollars those are selling the garden section golf carts . And well they're . They're jacked up golf . They're not for golf , they're for cruising .
Speaker 4Yeah , yeah , I don't know well , the only thing I , I can't , I don't understand . I can see how they could sell it . You know , you , you , you sell it and you go to the dealer to pick it up and I guess you go back to the dealer for service or warranty work , because you can't go back to amazon and you know what you're gonna do return it well , here's my , here's my thing .
Speaker 1You know , if you're gonna buy a car , I get , I get . You know , hey , man , I got a great , I saved five thousand dollars off of it . Okay , well , you save five thousand dollars off the initial investment into it . What if there's a problem ? Right , if you take it back to the dealer you bought it from . There shouldn't be a problem , because the dealer is invested in you as well , right , because they want your business . When it comes time to trade that car in , they want that car . They want to sell you another car . How's that going to work out for costco ? How's that going to work out for vroom ? And all these other ones are carvana .
Speaker 3There's no warranty there well , what are they getting out ? Why is costco doing it ? What's in it for them ?
Speaker 1because they clearly are making a huge markup on it . They don't work in the business to give away stuff .
Speaker 3Does costco have a finance company ? Maybe you have to go through Costco to finance it to get the car . I mean , a lot of times it's where they make money .
Speaker 4But Amazon doesn't . They don't have a finance company , they don't finance .
Speaker 3They bring your own financing .
Speaker 4Just try to figure out what's in it for them Money , I mean , they're going to get . They're buying it on a wholesale basis and trying to sell it Well good luck to them .
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Speaker 1That's it for this podcast episode of the In Wheel Time Car Show . I'm Don Armstrong , inviting you to join us for our live show every Saturday morning on Facebook , youtube , twitch and our InWheelTimecom website . Podcasts are available on Apple Podcasts , spotify Stitcher , iheart Podcast Podcast Addict TuneIn , pandora and Amazon Music . Keep listening and we'll see you soon .















